From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus expunge -- force? 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If so, >> is there a trail I can follow to ensure that the expunge happened >> locally, was transmitted to the IMAP server, and was acted upon by >> the IMAP server? I'm not quite understanding the Gnus docs where >> expunge is concerned. I'm testing a setup where I receive email from >> GNU mailing lists via IMAP on zohomail.com and send email via SNMP >> via icloud.com. > > Why do you want to do an expunge at all? By expunge, I mean cleanup old emails. Talking about this properly is a little difficult because Gnus has separate definitions for read, deleted, expired and completely removed. My issue is that I've subscribed to GNU mailing lists with my new zohomail.com account. While generous for a free account, not cleaning up the old emails will quickly run it out of space. Zohomail is new to me and, when I expire ('E') email in Gnus, I see the email in the Zoho mailer tagged with 'gnus-expire'. I assume that's how Gnus tracks expired mail that will be cleaned up at "some later time". I wanted to force that cleanup in a controlled way to ensure that the interface between zohomail and Gnus is working to cleanup old emails. -- David Masterson