From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reconsider defaults custom group Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 05:03:56 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8765t4xmxf.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <5xy961u5qp.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1041739550 26894 80.91.224.249 (5 Jan 2003 04:05:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 04:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18V22n-0006ze-00 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 05:05:49 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18V26C-00060l-00 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 05:09:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18V23F-0007gf-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 23:06:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18V22q-0007VO-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 23:05:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18V22g-00077G-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 23:05:43 -0500 Original-Received: from isp247n.hispeed.ch ([62.2.95.247] helo=smtp.hispeed.ch) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18V22c-0006Xd-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 23:05:39 -0500 Original-Received: from confusibombus (dclient217-162-233-61.hispeed.ch [217.162.233.61])h0543vVH029706; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 05:03:58 +0100 Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18V20z-0000G5-00; Sun, 05 Jan 2003 05:03:57 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb; QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:44:30 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.92 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Original-cc: kfs@cua.dk Original-cc: panderson@altiris.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10491 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10491 Richard Stallman writes: > I personally agree that several of the listed options could have > better defaults for the novice (and expert) emacs user. > > I cannot think about these changes en masse. Would you like to pick > just a few of them, and we can discuss them one by one? Some of us are currently discussing a list of options on the wiki; we will get back to you with a small number of defaults we suggest to change, and a list of options we would like to put in a "newbies" group (and hopefully with a good name for that group, too). Alex.