From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: add-change-log-entry and add-log-mailing-address Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 04:34:21 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8765pges36.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87of3c8v2q.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Dan Jacobson NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050363120 12734 80.91.224.249 (14 Apr 2003 23:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 23:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 15 01:31:57 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 195DQb-0003JB-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:31:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 195DR9-0000fz-00 for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:32:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 195DQZ-0008Rg-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 195DPv-0007OK-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 195DPd-0007DZ-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:30:57 -0400 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 195DOx-0003Cy-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:30:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 195D6x-0002Dh-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:11:39 +0200 Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:4793 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:4793 >>>>> "D" == David Kastrup writes: D> Richard Stallman writes: >> Say, why are you guys still emphasizing fuddy duddy mail >> addresses when like for 10 years now we can go to the person's >> web page, which of course will mention his mail address. >> >> Finding the email address in the web page is not reliable, and not >> automatic. So we will continue using email addresses in change >> logs. [Neat, SuperCite put my words in Richard's mouth without even a trace of difference in this instance.] D> I don't even have a web page. My next of kin has a web page but no email address. Now what? Hmm, I bet if we check the logs, 20 years ago you guys were defending putting telephone numbers while we were pushing email addresses. Anyway, I'm all about choice. So, I was just humbly mentioning that the subject of "what to do if I want my web page's address there instead of (or even in addition to) my email address" should be mentioned in the docs. And, lets say I went on a sudden vacation. With just my email address, you would mail into a black hole. With my web page address, you could wistfully enjoy my pages until I got back. Or, let's say I want to ask a VIP a FAQ. Would I want to display my inadeptness so early in the game by emailing him? No, I would go to the FAQ page right there on his web page. Anyways, the docs should mention what to do, in case it is a better solution for some users. I mean the docs shouldn't just assume that all users want email addresses instead of webpages. How about users like "IBM". Would IBM like folks to know a email address instead of a webpage? How about users unable to come to grips with spam, and are paranoid about leaving email addresses around, or switch regularly, but on the other hand have a healthy web page... the docs should mention what to do in their case. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780