From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GTK emacs (and access to GTK) Date: 03 Nov 2004 09:34:28 +0000 Message-ID: <87654n5l97.fsf@tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <87smal64nc.fsf@orebokech.com> <87wtx45rag.fsf_-_@tapsellferrier.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099475440 29550 80.91.229.6 (3 Nov 2004 09:50:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 03 10:50:25 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPHmb-0004y1-00 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:50:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPHug-0001ju-O4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:58:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPHha-0004OO-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:45:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPHhY-0004O5-U3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPHhY-0004O2-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:45:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.168.156.78] (helo=owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CPHZR-0005Km-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:36:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.207.145.34] (helo=kanga) by owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPHV9-0006wJ-R3; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:32:23 +0000 Original-Received: from nferrier by kanga with local (Exim 4.30 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPHXB-00011s-6x; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:34:29 +0000 Original-To: Peter Heslin In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 33 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29364 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29364 Peter Heslin writes: > On 2004-11-02, Nic Ferrier wrote: > > The GTK port of Emacs is brilliant. > > Indeed it is. One query: is the lack of support for the GTK > menu-accelerator keystrokes (eg. hitting F10 and navigating the menus > by using the cursor keys) regarded as an outstanding bug to be fixed > for the next release, as a wish-list feature, or as a rejected and > undesirable feature? I, for one, find that the support of XEmacs for > this feature is one of the few places where it has an advantage over > GNU Emacs. > > It would be nice if it could be fixed for the next release, but it may > be a non-trivial task. I once looked at the code, and saw that this > GTK feature was explicitly disabled by Emacs. I tried enabling it, > and saw that there were weird side-effects in which point moved in the > buffer in addition to the menu navigation, and so I gave up > investigating it. I'm guessing that Emacs keymaps would get in the way. So one would have to have a key binding that passed through the key event to the GTK control. This is the sort of thing that I'm talking about: tighter integration with GTK as an option for Emacs. So by default Emacs (even Emacs/GTK) would not have this stuff turned on but it would be available. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk