From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: announcing defaults when reading from minibuffer Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:47:25 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <8764tovav6.fsf@olgas.newt.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1125342386 15895 80.91.229.2 (29 Aug 2005 19:06:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 29 21:06:23 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9ou9-0007Ra-Ta for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:02:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9oyF-00075q-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E9ouu-00065k-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E9oug-0005xM-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:03:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9ouf-0005ug-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1E9ooX-0001VW-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1E9oj9-0004Bd-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:51:27 +0200 Original-Received: from h-64-105-137-67.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([64.105.137.67]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:51:27 +0200 Original-Received: from wohler by h-64-105-137-67.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:51:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-64-105-137-67.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dAvjUtcB1nD6PQ4AJhv5W4tOj/4= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42482 Archived-At: Emilio Lopes writes: > I've just asked myself if there's any convention for announcing > defaults when reading from minibuffer. Skimming the Elisp manual > didn't reveal anything in this regard. Seaching the archives of this > list I found this message from RMS: > > The standard for Emacs is (default foo). There may be some > nonstandard functions that use [foo], due to imperfect quality > control, but we should stick to the standard (unless we decide to > change it). Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've submitted a bug report to ensure that this is changed in MH-E. Can you please clarify the location of the colon? Your update to the manual says this: > + Enter value (default 42): However, "C-x b (switch-to-buffer)" for example shows this: "Switch to buffer: (default foo) " -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.