From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hadron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 16:54:18 +0200 Message-ID: <876478tzad.fsf@gmail.com> References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> <87hcqsn5na.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178296634 4726 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 16:37:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 16:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Hadron To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 18:37:12 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk0mJ-0008T8-6l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 18:37:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk0sx-0003xu-C2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjzHg-0003Zt-Ji for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 11:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjzHf-0003Zh-0e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 11:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjzHe-0003Ze-UD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 11:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com ([72.14.246.245]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HjzB0-00039c-Il for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 10:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 23so1155577agd for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 07:54:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references:x-face:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:from; b=bEN6zYMXl+k4iGP9TTniBneyCW7YTfd6uVDg4cXny5xDKMgxL9U2SkWrrud7ItisYvV2pD/nGGbuxkhLmrxPjSv1LOciDkobsdarJb5xf9NfaX5/d5ErDdWm2Um3ClaiT4J01US2Jmt+nWGkZtVc9F5NtoM3/ftGiQkQd1f8YOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:to:cc:subject:references:x-face:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:from; b=DjKsxfGqfu4DiEaMwvrz9OpYRQV2n1IV8xGSVeLmGqPIEaV9Dtr+OgIX7p9gHexA9ZExP27WTHdm9sLqjWLGjzDo3hsAmpXUXP7A2CVZjITwguPlcL6f4YGtZzeYm7ZccA0qtvXnExd0dNxA+f416KG6Y+NRkvlxGmkFmaGEmHw= Original-Received: by 10.90.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr3298828agc.1178290468338; Fri, 04 May 2007 07:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.mail.individual.net ( [85.179.193.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 32sm5561018ugf.2007.05.04.07.54.20; Fri, 04 May 2007 07:54:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Face: 2h#||Cd#d%F*NCm59[_6/{1a@jy%; |j>{D~4^gKg(^i%7j0IK?+,/GmW&:CD5fEKb_! In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Fri, 4 May 2007 16:21:18 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.99 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:37:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43674 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On 5/4/07, Hadron wrote: > >> I'd say you have wasted more energy arguing about the "waste of energy" >> of this little "nice to have" than you would have implementing it. > > That's beyond unfair. No it isn't. I made absolutely zero inference on the great things Eli has done in the past. In *this* instance it strikes me that the old guard are being unfairly hostile to Lennart and his efforts. Possibly it's just the way it comes across. If it seemed I was in anyway degrading or disputing Eli's efforts for Emacs then I sincerely apologise. That was not my intention. > > Eli has spent prodigious amounts of energy in developing Emacs in > general, and Emacs on DOS and Windows in particular, not to mention > his attention and dedication to improving the documentation. There are > at least 1313 ChangeLog entries bearing his name, and the AUTHORS file > says: > > Eli Zaretskii: wrote codepage.el rxvt.el tty-colors.el > and changed msdos.c Makefile.in makefile.w32-in files.el info.el fileio.c > startup.el mainmake.v2 config.bat menu-bar.el pc-win.el rmail.el > simple.el msdos.h internal.el xfaces.c emacs.c frame.c dosfns.c > faces.el frame.el and 531 other files > > I'd say he's quite knowledgeable about spending energy in the > betterment of Emacs... > > Juanma > --