From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@ieee.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Manual policy (Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 44, Issue 65)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:00:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87641e4om7.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20071010214419.GA1297@thyrsus.com
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:44:19 -0400, Eric S Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> said:
> From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
>> Subject: Re: Policy issue in the VC manual -- recommending CVS?!?
>> To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Message-ID: <470D40AA.6020400@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain;
>> charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>> > Recommending GNU arch is dubious considering Arch's
>> > poorly-maintained and poorly-documented state. If I'm not
>> > mistaken, Arch has been effectively moribund since about 2003.
>> >
>>
>> I think you're mistaken. Savannah lists the last release as July last
>> year.
> So it's only been over a year since the last point release. I'm not
> hugely reassured.
I can assure you that the tool is functional, and is in
production use in a number of projects.
>> > Recommending CVS is well beyond dubious into outright ridiculous.
>>
>> Like it or not, CVS is stable, and widely used. Its "problems" are
>> widely exaggerated by adherents to the latest wave of version control
>> religions.
> Er. I've been using VCSes since the days when SCCS was the only one
> in existence. The fact that I still cheerfully use RCS, the second
> one ever built, makes me pretty bulletproof against charges of
> version-control faddism. But file-oriented VCSes just plain suck for
> distributed projects, and there's no way to make them not suck.
>> > No recommendations at all would be better than these. Who decides
>> > what the manual recommends? If it's "the last person to care", I'm
>> > going to nuke these in a nanosecond.
>> Arch is part of GNU
> Please tell me you're not implying that we should recommend an
> inferior GPLed tool over a superior one just because the inferior is
> distributed from an FSF server. That would be taking political
> jaundice to an absurd extreme.
I think you first have to make your case that arch is
inferior. It does not change a whole lot, but what we have works just
fine. Over the last year I have twice evaluate bzr and git, and found
that they do not support the feature set of arch that I have come to
rely upon -- so in my view, at least, bzr and git are the inferior
products. YMMV.
manoj
--
God isn't dead, he just couldn't find a parking place.
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2007-10-10 21:44 ` Manual policy (Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 44, Issue 65) Eric S. Raymond
2007-10-10 22:00 ` Manoj Srivastava [this message]
2007-10-10 22:07 ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-10 22:55 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-10-12 18:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-11 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 15:03 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-10-11 15:05 ` David Kastrup
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