From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Van Holder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: 23.0.50; S-SPC remapped to C-@ for no good reason, severely reducing usability Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:33:03 +0100 Message-ID: <8763zlbau8.fsf@leeloo.anubex.internal> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196332493 25798 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2007 10:34:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:34:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 29 11:35:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IxgjU-0003iW-Gi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:35:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxgjE-0007Ve-V5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:34:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IxgjA-0007Ub-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:34:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixgj9-0007RZ-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:34:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixgj9-0007RP-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:34:39 -0500 Original-Received: from 179.75-78-194.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be ([194.78.75.179] helo=mail.anubex.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixgj9-00056N-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:34:39 -0500 Original-Received: from leeloo.anubex.internal (177.75-78-194.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [194.78.75.177]) by mail.anubex.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A638C7FD420; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:33:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from tim by leeloo.anubex.internal with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixghc-0002Ug-0I; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:33:04 +0100 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84290 Archived-At: Since yesterday morning's build, S-SPC seems to have been mapped to C-@ for no apparent reason; while C-SPC is a reasonable binding for set-mark-command, S-SPC is not: it occurs very frequently when typing. I now find myself having to frequently go back and re-add spaces to code because they were eaten by S-SPC. What's worse, I have no way of finding out where the mapping comes from. C-h k S-SPC gives C-@ (translated from S-SPC) runs the command set-mark-command which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple.el'. It is bound to C-SPC, C-@. but it doesn't say where the translation comes from, and C-h b does not list S-SPC as a translation, and only lists C-SPC and C-@ as bindings for set-mark-command. The translation seems to occur in all buffers, so it's probably some global thing. In GNU Emacs 23.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20) of 2007-11-29 on leeloo Windowing system distributor `RealVNC Ltd', version 11.0.3370 configured using `configure '--with-gtk' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-gif' '--with-tiff' '--with-png' '--with-x' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: C/l Minor modes in effect: whitespace-global-mode: t show-paren-mode: t pc-selection-mode: t display-time-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t