From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 23:50:09 +0900 Message-ID: <8763tozw7y.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210258260 20625 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 14:51:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Jason Rumney , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 16:51:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju7Su-0005fg-5K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 16:51:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57597 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju7SC-0004lK-2Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 10:50:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju7S6-0004jK-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 10:50:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju7S4-0004gY-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 10:50:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37679 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju7S3-0004gO-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 10:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]:39402) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju7Rq-0003br-Pj; Thu, 08 May 2008 10:50:19 -0400 Original-Received: from 203-216-99-062.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.99.62] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1Ju7Rn-0000vN-8q; Thu, 08 May 2008 23:50:15 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87F132F4D; Thu, 8 May 2008 23:50:09 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 08 May 2008 09:51:48 -0400") Original-Lines: 20 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96785 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > I like it, but I'm not sure it's a good idea in general. Why not? The necessity of duplicating settings in the xrdb data base if you want at avoid your initial frame resizing itself 10 times at startup is both annoying and confusing. Simply waiting a bit to map the frame seems like quite a reasonable solution. A splash screen, whether hardwired or a hacked emacs frame that avoids the initial-settings issues would seem to take care of "users will get worried" issues. -Miles -- Alliance, n. In international politics, the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other's pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third.