From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johannes Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:30 +0200 Message-ID: <8763qzxcfd.fsf@saeurebad.de> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884DA4F.20203@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216668688 18927 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2008 19:31:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lord@emf.net, rms@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, Miles Bader To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 21 21:32:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KL17G-0006IG-8W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:32:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KL16M-0006rA-R2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KL16H-0006qc-Fq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KL16E-0006ph-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55617 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KL16E-0006pV-PE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:42602) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KL163-0006EI-Jv; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) id D7F114A0002; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (217-68-166-249.dynamic.primacom.net [217.68.166.249]) by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADCA2F0006; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:56 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4884DA4F.20203@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:49:51 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101112 Archived-At: Hi, "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > Johannes Weiner wrote: >> Hi, >> >> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: >> >>> Johannes Weiner wrote: >>>>> Doing so _manually_ (as a shell script or something) is not particularly >>>>> hard if you have simple needs. If you're using some other build tool, >>>>> it should often be fairly straight-forward to use that tool with a thin >>>>> layer on top to implement the GNU configure interface. >>>> It would be cool to have shell libraries you could use for whipping your >>>> own configure. I.e. no m4 macros but powerful shell functions you can >>>> just call. >>> >>> And once again: If this did not work easily on w32 too it might stop >>> people from using it. >> >> To be honest, I couldn't give the slightest about w32. It's a pile of >> crap that should have never seen the light of day, all political issues >> left aside and I, FWIW, would not consider it when designing software. > > > I not sure why you tell me that. I see no reason why I should be > interested in your opinion about it. > > I am interested in getting the free software movement forward and "I > know best" attitudes will not help. No offence. You suggested it should work on Windows in a reply to me. So I stated my opinion about it. I am also interested in getting the free software movement forward. I just don't have any idea how that relates to Windows. Hannes