From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:11:34 +0900 Message-ID: <8763pjqjrt.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <87wshzpszz.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <48B87A2D.3050406@emf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220065621 25259 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2008 03:07:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , Johannes Weiner , Emacs Devel To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 05:07:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZGoV-0000No-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:07:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59973 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGnW-0004id-Mq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:06:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGnR-0004gX-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGnQ-0004eO-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39768 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZGnQ-0004eJ-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:40626) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZGnP-0001vy-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680B87FFC; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:06:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 41DFA1A2D42; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:11:34 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <48B87A2D.3050406@emf.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 78738a40e31e XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103242 Archived-At: Thomas Lord writes: > It's a linguistic confusion between communities, in part. God, you're smart, Tom. At least in the "finding the head of the nail so you can whack it with a hammer" sense. ;-) Now, since these are communities we're talking about, not simply a minor twirk, there are a bunch of other things that are associated with something like this difference in definition of "delete". I conclude that this thread is a waste of time; Lennart should go customize his .emacs, and then everybody should get to work on (1) implementing cascading custom themes and (2) providing a UI that (a) allows Windows folks to have Windowsy behavior, Mac folks to have "for the rest of us" behavior, and *nix folks to have "for the sentient" behavior, (b) an (optional) subcommunity thematic for eg Vista cripples vs XP wonks and (c) a "new-in-version-X.Y" theme advertised on the splish-screed. And all easily accessible and well-advertised.