From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Sieger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:28:56 -0400 Message-ID: <8763oh5wh3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ljxoffs6.fsf@atthis.clsnet.nl> <71208e97-140c-445d-8eda-1705f11b14b3@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <095ef0c0-c7f4-494d-8bf6-8a5ee43fd934@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <3c61c357-0705-4ff4-b793-fa6827415fdd@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <9b7f6c54-649a-45d0-8e9b-0dbbd61ef1dd@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222536584 6926 80.91.229.12 (27 Sep 2008 17:29:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:29:44 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 27 19:30:42 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kjdcn-0000Cm-T8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:30:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33685 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kjdbl-0006oV-6y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KjdbT-0006oI-Ka for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KjdbS-0006lZ-5w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41263 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KjdbS-0006lW-04 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:29:10 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:38056 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KjdbR-0005p4-H1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KjdbL-0007cX-NR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:29:03 +0000 Original-Received: from pool-70-18-194-201.ny325.east.verizon.net ([70.18.194.201]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:29:03 +0000 Original-Received: from sean.sieger by pool-70-18-194-201.ny325.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:29:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-18-194-201.ny325.east.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bu2r5F73c6Zq7BtxVCq0yiIbXhk= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:58144 Archived-At: Xah writes: ... gab of knowledge ... Earlier, Andreas pointed out a freudian slip---parapraxes, Freud called them---but this one takes the cake. By some poetic maneuver, lacuna is the word that comes to my mind, as in: gab of lacunae. So, what can i do with you or you with me? For sincerity and persuit of truth, i am willing to pay $50 to have this argument about *scratch* fully resolved. I propose, that each of us put $50 into this argument. For nothing else, it is a reasonable proof of sincerity and effort to get a real quality argument going. How do we carry it out? that's always been problematic... but we can start, by , i send you $50 thru paypal, and you send me $50 thru paypal. I trust you, and you trust me. Then we start to argue really seriously. If in the end, you find that my argument is stronger, you pay me $50 back. Same me to you. What do you say? I say, you can't even be expected or trusted to supply the expert testimony on UI standards and design you've offered in the past---and been taken up on! And I ask, why ... WHY would anyone take you up on this bet? I was looking forward to that very testimony ... quotes and so on. After you lose the bet you'll say, ``Ah! Moron! Had my fingers crossed behind my back, didn't I?'' Thanks, Xah, I'm going to start studying Elisp again.