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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, lekktu@gmail.com,
	Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs is on Bazaar now.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:54:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87637pmx0e.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k4w5eifd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:36:38 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> In my opinion, if someone (such as Handa or myself) is happy with VC and
>> the old CVS-style workflow, we should recommand the CVS-like solution
>> documented at
>> 
>>   http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrQuickStartForEmacsDevs
>
>That's fine with me.  But I _do_ want to use the distributed workflow
>and have a local repository.  And I don't understand why I need to
>wait until I bump into annoyances before I get to be told what are the
>ways around them.

That's not what's happening.

What's happening is that some us are thinking hard about how to write an
introductory doc in the most useful way -- by definition, that means
choosing what to leave out.  Naturally, we'll sometimes leave something
out that maybe we should have included.  We don't know in advance what
annoyances people will bump into; nor is it easy to gauge the cost (in
cognitive load on the reader) of putting too much stuff in.

If you want us to predict every developer's experience, or rewrite all
the Bazaar docs, well, that's above my pay grade.  We've gone to a great
deal of trouble to make the right compromises in a document that will
inevitably not be perfect for everyone; we've linked to another document
that explains the method you _do_ want; we are trying to be responsive
and responsible about adjusting the documentation based on feedback from
this list; above all, Bazaar is a free software project with its own
easily accessible documentation.  And your comment that you don't like
being used as a guinea pig?  Then go read the native Bazaar docs.  No
one's stopping you.

Very.  Slightly.  Ticked.  Off.  (but only slightly),
-Karl




  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-29 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-27 22:55 GNU Emacs is on Bazaar now Karl Fogel
2009-12-28  6:46 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-28  6:55   ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28  8:07     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-28  8:52       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 11:41         ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-28 11:45         ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-28 12:08           ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-28 13:10             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-28 12:09           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 13:22             ` Xavier Maillard
2009-12-28 13:51           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-28 14:42             ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-28  9:19   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 11:44     ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-28 11:47     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-28 12:06       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 13:08         ` Kenichi Handa
2009-12-28 19:59           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 21:27             ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28 22:16               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 22:24                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-29  1:26                   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-12-29  2:08                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-29  2:26                       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-12-28 22:30                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-28 22:41                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28 23:14                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29  1:17                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-29  2:12                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29  1:57                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29  2:00                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-29  2:16                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29  4:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29  4:46                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29  7:25                               ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-12-29 10:27                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-29 15:54                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-29 16:01                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-29 16:15                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29 18:08                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-29 18:09                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-29 18:47                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-29 18:13                                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-29 18:36                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-29 18:54                                         ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2009-12-29 20:06                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-29 20:14                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-31  8:18                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-31  8:29                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-31  9:26                                                   ` Miles Bader
2009-12-31  8:44                                                 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-01  8:41                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-31  5:57                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-31  6:36                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-01  9:21                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-01  9:48                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-31 11:33                                         ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-29  1:47                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29  2:38                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29  4:38                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29  4:58                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-31  5:54                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-31  5:58                             ` Miles Bader
2009-12-31  6:02                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-01-01 11:22                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-31  6:33                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-31  6:51                               ` Miles Bader
2010-01-01 10:01                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-01 10:19                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29  6:14                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-29  7:23                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-28 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-28 20:00   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-28 20:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-29 18:00   ` James Cloos
2009-12-29 19:40     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-29 20:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-29 20:55       ` James Cloos
2009-12-29 21:30         ` Óscar Fuentes

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