From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Thunderbird to Emacs migration Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:44:05 +0200 Organization: SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source Message-ID: <87634z7v8a.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87y6hxku7l.fsf@kobe.laptop> <4b9b1ffb$0$29861$c33e2976@unlimited.newshosting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272993396 18982 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2010 17:16:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:16:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 04 19:16:35 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9LjX-0000xe-1e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 19:16:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O9LjW-0008GQ-94 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 13:16:34 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IG85xRu06x3ukstbs8nbAcP0OAw= Original-Lines: 45 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 94.64.201.69 Original-X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC==g@_; bGYG:0; 0_3?no_>`WUg<`1joJZA^dLN@mm_@4Sc0jFK9gKo7@mg7GRjg9; E^L8=fPNc Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:177458 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:72974 Archived-At: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:17:47 -0800, David Rogoff wrote: >On 2010-03-12 15:15:26 -0800, Giorgos Keramidas said: >> Gnus is the mail reader I use. I am still learning how to use it >> effectively after almost two years, but it is a very nice program >> with literally hundreds of options. I've even written some Lisp code >> to extend it and tweak its behavior in an automated manner. >> >> Gnus should be able to pull your messages from multiple IMAP and POP3 >> accounts, but see below before you pull everything into Gnus. > > vm is much easier to use for mail than gnus. gnus is great as a > (text) Usenet newsreader, but it just wasn't designed as a mail > program and the attempts to make it so have all seemed pretty crazy to > me. I gave it a try for a while but it just required the user to do > things the way gnus wanted and not what made sense as a mail program. > I liked using vm and gnus together. Any Usenet articles I wanted to > save I could have gnus save into the folders I used for vm and read > them later in vm. I started using Gnus for Usenet too. Then my Usenet time got way smaller than the time I spent inside mutt. So I experimented with Gnus for email too. Now I'm hooked up on features like: * Offline mode -- the ability to read messages and post while being disconnected from the network. * Excellent MIME and charset support -- the ability to read almost any charset some random mailer can throw at Emacs, using the standard and familiar recoding facilities of Emacs and a general "do the right thing" automation in Gnus * GnuPG and keyring support -- the signing and encryption keys of Gnus are now literally hardcoded in my spinal cord; I no longer have to 'think' about how to encrypt or sign selected parts of a message or a full message including dozens of attachments I still have to struggle a bit with the archiving methods of Gnus from time to time, but I like its good parts so much that I keep saying to myself I will try VM one day and then I keep happily using Gnus, without actually giving VM a few months of usage to see if I like it. So VM is probably a good Emacs-based mailer, but I don't know enough about it to either recommend it to someone else or to be able to phrase a useful opinion about it.