From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: more on anything.el inclusion Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:55:19 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87630z2fs8.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87y6dydn6q.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87iq509yji.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxucxt8w.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87tyok8guu.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87hbkkxow6.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87pqz721fd.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87hbkjhc8p.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87iq4z5oj8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878w5v2sqd.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87eifn42on.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278010669 15676 80.91.229.12 (1 Jul 2010 18:57:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:57:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 01 20:57:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUOxG-0001YW-Kc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:57:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45419 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUOvM-00034v-DJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:55:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34397 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUOvC-00033u-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:55:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUOv7-00012r-LT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:55:38 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49433) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUOv7-00011Z-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:55:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUOv1-0000L4-GO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:55:27 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:55:27 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:55:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fMkOrS3gCMSFJl+JCM0PUUuoe6g= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126649 Archived-At: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:43:02 +0200 Lennart Borgman wrote: LB> 2010/7/1 Ted Zlatanov : >>>> >>>> In which menu should we add anything commands? >> LB> I have suggested long ago to create a top level menu for all minor LB> modes. That would make decisions like this easier. >> >> Exposing functionality creates UI complexity; Emacs is already really >> complex both in UI terms and in scope.  So I don't think adding a >> general menu like that (have you seen how many minor modes Emacs has?) >> would benefit the users. LB> A misunderstanding. The problem today is that all minor mode menus LB> goes into the top level menu, i.e. the menu bar. So every minor mode LB> you turn on takes space in the menu bar, but the space in the menu bar LB> is limited. LB> What I suggested is that minor mode menus should not go into the menu LB> bar. They should go into a submenu for minor modes instead. (Perhaps LB> that should be customized per minor mode.) LB> Normally minor modes are not in the menus unless they are turned on. I see. You meant "all active minor modes" in your original message. Yes, in that limited case it could work but I'm not convinced it would be useful. Ted