From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:38:41 +0900 Message-ID: <8762r1lw4u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87y66fv2d3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D3A8666.4070609@cs.ucla.edu> <877hdvd49f.fsf@meyering.net> <83mxmrzhb6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> <00oc4v55eb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87vcz2xh57.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <87pqpaxgi3.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <878vvykoai.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8739m6x828.fsf@rho.meyering.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301416419 23601 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2011 16:33:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , chad , Stefan Monnier To: Jim Meyering Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 29 18:33:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4brJ-0000f5-7c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:33:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39410 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4brI-0000Vk-L4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:33:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35202 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4brE-0000Vd-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4br6-0008OR-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:33:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:45229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4br5-0008M5-Vg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:33:20 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD32F970661; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:33:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E3041A35C0; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:38:41 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <8739m6x828.fsf@rho.meyering.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" eac2e6bd5b2c+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137858 Archived-At: Jim Meyering writes: > In any case, they are far outnumbered by the less-experienced > users, the vast majority of whom will perform a srcdir build. Yah think? Maybe it's just me, but one of the first things I learned was that doing an out-of-$srcdir build sometimes saves you a lot of grief if you don't know what you're doing and don't feel like learning. It quickly became a habit. If there's a reason why it's hard to make this stuff work in that context, that's one thing, but there are probably enough users out there who would benefit from making it work in non-$srcdir builds to make it worth doing if possible.