From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using gnutls.c by default Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 19:03:31 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <8762pm5a98.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <8739kxvvc6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DBF352E.4010103@gmail.com> <87oc3hh1if.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d3jxz1q0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o59z01p.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304813035 2234 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2011 00:03:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 00:03:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 08 02:03:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIrTR-0003dT-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 May 2011 02:03:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32917 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIrTR-0007S0-88 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 20:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIrTO-0007Rt-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 20:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIrTN-00006e-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 20:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:39762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIrTN-00006a-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 20:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIrTJ-0003ba-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 May 2011 02:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 May 2011 02:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 May 2011 02:03:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Zat7ch5mWGuxbw8/nhcbKvOICFI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139214 Archived-At: On Sat, 7 May 2011 08:05:23 -0700 "T.V. Raman" wrote: TVR> In that case, could we support slightly older versions of gnutls? TVR> Apparently there is no prebuilt package for gnutls 2.6 on Jaunty TVR> -- I'm going to install it from source. But I suspect the TVR> average user is going to get burnt. I would rather not support old versions of GnuTLS. I believe we discussed this a few months ago when we were talking about callbacks. 2.6 is already very old; remember that old versions have potential security issues so we don't want to encourage their use. The average user will get Emacs from a distribution, not compile it themselves. For those who compile, either they get a recent GnuTLS distribution or they will have to specify --without-gnutls. I think that's reasonable. If you disagree, you or someone else will have to support those older versions. The API is quite different so it's not trivial. Ted