From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:09:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8762oocrd4.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvzkm0khbw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:09:36 -0300 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> From my perspective the chief benefit is that any `auth-source-search'
>> call against an unencrypted file will not require a passphrase until the
>> password is actually needed, and yet the password will be stored
>> securely.
SM> Sounds OK. But only if you push if further and deprecate
SM> authinfo.gpg.
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:57:41 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
RP> I'm not clear on why you'd want that. I can imagine someone wanting to
RP> hide username & server identities from inspection, not just the
RP> associated passwords. ie I distinguish 3 cases
RP> 1) everything unencrypted
RP> 2) passwords encrypted only
RP> 3) everything encrypted
It will be less necessary as the first `auth-sources' choice, but still
useful, as Robert noted (I see case 2 as "encrypted tokens" since any
token can be encrypted in my proposal).
I'll simply make `auth-sources' ("~/.authinfo" "~/.authinfo.gpg")
which as a default will work fine. Creation prompts will target the
first one. The users can put insecure or token-encrypted data in the
first one and use the second one for more secure storage.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-02 13:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 203+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-23 18:54 Emacs RPC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 3:21 ` T.V. Raman
2011-04-24 20:04 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 20:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25 17:55 ` Richard Stallman
2011-05-01 18:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 2:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 21:25 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-02 22:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 20:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 17:56 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 17:40 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-24 18:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 19:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-25 1:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 1:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25 2:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 12:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 12:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 17:00 ` Emacs RPC security (was: Emacs RPC) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 17:35 ` Emacs RPC security Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 19:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-01 18:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:19 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el (was: Emacs RPC security) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 15:20 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el James Cloos
2011-05-02 18:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 18:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 19:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 23:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 0:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 1:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 22:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04 1:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 17:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:07 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 18:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:54 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 19:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 19:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 23:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 7:11 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-31 10:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 18:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 19:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-01 0:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 2:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 12:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 13:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 15:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02 8:57 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-02 11:45 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 12:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02 14:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:03 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 15:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 21:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 15:11 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-26 10:09 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 15:43 ` GPGME (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27 21:47 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-28 11:56 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28 20:36 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 8:07 ` secure plist store Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 8:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29 9:05 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:30 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:39 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:59 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:31 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 23:10 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 7:43 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:42 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 14:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 22:18 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 22:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-01 2:28 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-03 2:13 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 11:09 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:15 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 17:21 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:41 ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:46 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:09 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-06-02 13:44 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Daiki Ueno
2011-06-03 21:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 1:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-03 21:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-09 18:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-09 21:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:05 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 21:47 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 22:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 16:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 21:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-16 3:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16 8:32 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-16 13:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16 20:28 ` Reiner Steib
2011-06-16 21:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-17 1:03 ` should docstrings include all defcustom options? (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17 7:17 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Robert Pluim
2011-06-17 9:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17 9:53 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-17 10:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 19:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 19:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 20:19 ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 21:01 ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:07 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:25 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 9:01 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-22 8:27 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 8:30 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 8:52 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 9:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 9:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 9:34 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 9:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 17:45 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 18:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23 8:01 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 15:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 2:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 14:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:50 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 17:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 19:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-22 20:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:16 ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06 15:06 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Stefan Monnier
2011-06-09 17:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-10 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 15:20 ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 15:25 ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 15:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04 1:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-08 20:59 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 10:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:00 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 15:30 ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs (was: client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:46 ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs David Engster
2011-05-09 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-11 21:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 9:37 ` Emacs RPC security Julien Danjou
2011-05-02 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 19:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-02 19:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 22:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 0:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 0:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 1:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 1:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 2:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 6:24 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-05-03 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 0:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26 12:13 ` Emacs RPC Sebastian Rose
2011-04-26 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
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