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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why (substring "abc" 0 4) does not return "abc" instead of an error?
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:19:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87629ntq51.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87hat7bqmh.fsf@gnu.org

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>
>> We have general functionality when you want to ignore some errors, such
>> as condition-case.
>
> Also, I'm fine with
>
>   (substring "abc" -1 1)
>     => #ERROR
>
> so using ̀condition-case' would not help me distinguish
> between the case above and (substring "abc" 0 4), which
> is what I want.
>
> I see the benefit of having 
>
>   (substring "abc" 0 4)
>     => "abc"
>
> in terms of simplifying Elisp writing -- and I still fail
> to see the harm (but maybe Pascal will tell me where he has
> been bitten by this.)

There would have been no harm if the language/library had been designed
that way.  It's arbitrary.  But since it has been designed the other
way, there would be harm if that changed.  There are a ton of code that
expects the original behavior.

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-16 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-15 23:15 Why (substring "abc" 0 4) does not return "abc" instead of an error? Bastien
2012-07-15 23:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-15 23:59   ` Bastien
2012-07-16  0:10     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-16  7:14       ` Bastien
2012-07-16 16:15         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-16 16:22           ` Bastien
2012-07-16 16:46           ` Bastien
2012-07-16 17:57             ` Tassilo Horn
2012-07-16 18:51               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-07-16 19:30                 ` Bastien
2012-07-16 19:30                 ` Tassilo Horn
2012-07-16 20:20                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-07-16 19:25               ` Bastien
2012-07-16 19:43                 ` Bastien
2012-07-16 20:19             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2012-07-16 20:30             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-16 22:28               ` Lennart Borgman
2012-07-16 22:48                 ` Bastien
2012-07-16 22:53                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-07-16  7:38       ` Andreas Schwab
2012-07-16  9:40         ` Juanma Barranquero
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-07-16  3:45 Dmitry Gutov
2012-07-16  7:32 ` Bastien
2012-07-16  7:52   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-07-16  8:38     ` Bastien
2012-07-16 13:03   ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-07-16 14:32     ` Bastien
2012-07-16 13:10 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-07-16 14:40   ` Bastien
2012-07-16 15:00     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-07-16 15:07       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-07-16 15:19         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-07-16 15:22         ` Bastien
2012-07-16 15:46       ` Bastien
2012-07-16 15:49         ` Bastien
2012-07-16 19:49           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-07-16 22:32             ` Bastien
2012-07-16 15:56         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-07-16 16:13           ` Bastien
2012-07-16 19:00 Dmitry Gutov
2012-07-16 19:51 ` Tassilo Horn

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