From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: M-= Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:32:29 +0200 Message-ID: <876299ds9e.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <20494.21864.117259.772610@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <87obn13l3e.fsf@gnu.org> <20498.29864.4168.252416@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <87zk6lw8tb.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <20498.49343.323025.824133@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343410365 14089 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2012 17:32:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 27 19:32:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SuoP0-00064S-Sa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:32:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33928 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuoP0-0002OA-8Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuoOx-0002NX-Bf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuoOw-0003Qi-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:35 -0400 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:45137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuoOu-0003Od-Rz; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:33 -0400 Original-Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6074E20B6E; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=TnkrovTGGNpbdo3mCersg4f+1qE=; b=eMAOsr4dKyf62KTfqd1O4L8hp6nn YXuPulaOj83yZ6OU0AQacoe+dGPxgbJCA5oDgEPFDt+v+MEXdIznqomOOSqkQ30e ia2dlDgOdvziHH6KG15j20b11w7oRcut1ezI0E3ptNqRY/vD5cgNPVOJRuWlTWbY 8s6mx1iIwwAreUk= X-Sasl-enc: NkVpj+D4l7yxHgiWp0lw5MgqdWh6XBYZDzaLy4MDxzlT 1343410351 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.9.216]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7ACBE482561; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Mail-Followup-To: Ulrich Mueller , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20498.49343.323025.824133@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:24:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 66.111.4.27 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151925 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller writes: >>> I certainly use M-= on the region much more often than on the whole >>> buffer. With transient-mark-mode switched off, I now find it rather >>> painful. Especially combinations like M-h M-= (i.e., mark-paragraph >>> followed by count-words-region) no longer work. > >> You could do C-SPC C-SPC M-h M-= to enable ttm just for that command. > > That doesn't work: M-h marks the whole paragraph, whereas C-SPC C-SPC > M-h only marks from point to end of paragraph. Indeed, I tested that while point was at the beginning of a paragraph, so that didn't make a difference. But this works: M-h C-u C-x C-x M-= Ok, probably not /that/ convenient, but how often do you check the wordcount of a paragraph? Bye, Tassilo