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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:56:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <876232ga8s.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fw27cybb.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:30:16 +0100")

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> Yep, typo.  But the 'mustsuffix trick is to force loading ".el" (and
>> not ".elc" files, right?  My question is: when is it necessary?
>
> The 'mustsuffix argument prevents consideration of the filename without
> the extensions listed in load-suffixes.  In other words, when you are
> trying to load feature 'x, a file named just "x" does not satisfy the
> requirement as it otherwise would.  On the other hand, it does not
> prevent using "x.el.gz" instead of "x.el" as 'nosuffix does.

(load "org-loaddefs.el" t t t) will *not* load gzipped version of
org-loaddefs.el.

>> I'm trying to consider real use-cases, with a sense of "real" close to
>> "not so improbable".  I don't see why Org should take care of users
>> who are pervert enough to gzip their org-loaddefs.el... but maybe I
>> lack imagination, as usual :)
>
> This is a real use case.  Installation with compression is a standard
> feature of Emacs and just currently not supported by the build system,
> mainly due to "little" problems like the above.  Emacs' current
> installer itself compresses the source files only when there's a
> byte-compiled file around, so any recent Emacs would automatically have
> a file "org-loaddefs.el" in load-path, although some packagers have
> their own ideas about this.  You should generally expect that the
> installed files, whether sources or byte-compiled files could have been
> compressed.

Please point at one distribution that actually distributes gzipped
autoloads files like loaddefs.el.

> Now if someone decides to compress the lisp folder for their own org
> installation 

Then we will tell him not to.  

Can we stop *imagining* people shouting themselves in the foot for
free?  I don't have time to build an hospital for them.

-- 
 Bastien

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-12  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-10 16:08 [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 16:29 ` Bastien
2013-01-10 16:38   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 17:09     ` Bastien
2013-01-10 17:29       ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 17:44         ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 18:13           ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 18:44             ` Bastien
2013-01-10 19:28               ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 20:05                 ` Bastien
2013-01-10 21:12                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:24                     ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:45                       ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 23:05                       ` Bastien
2013-01-10 23:44                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11  7:04                           ` Bastien
2013-01-11 12:28                             ` Bastien
2013-01-11 15:41                               ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11 16:31                                 ` Bastien
2013-01-11 16:50                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 16:40                               ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 16:58                                 ` Bastien
2013-01-11 17:04                                   ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 17:23                                     ` Bastien
2013-01-11 19:30                                       ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11 20:19                                         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-11 20:48                                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12  6:57                                           ` Bastien
2013-01-12  6:56                                         ` Bastien [this message]
2013-01-12  7:44                                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12  8:40                                             ` Bastien
2013-01-12 10:27                                               ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 11:03                                         ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 13:35                                           ` Bastien
2013-01-12 15:49                                             ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 16:06                                               ` Bastien
2013-01-12 16:17                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-12 16:12                                               ` Bastien
2013-01-12 16:24                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-11  9:12                           ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 23:27                       ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-10 23:27                       ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-10 20:09                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 22:30                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-10 22:55                     ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-11  8:58                     ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-10 19:37             ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-10 19:47 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-13 22:08   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-13 23:06     ` Stelian Iancu
2013-01-13 23:22       ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-14 21:44         ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-15  1:29           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15  6:07             ` Eric Schulte
2013-01-15 11:31               ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15 12:22                 ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-15 13:36                   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-01-15 13:49                     ` Nick Dokos
2013-01-15 18:58                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-15 20:17                   ` Thorsten Jolitz

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