From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13321: 24.3.0.50; Gmail error when replying from Gnus to github Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:06:42 +0100 Organization: Emacs Helm Message-ID: <87621kek7h.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a9surugk.fsf@gmail.com> <87zk0rffsg.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwwqg78u.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7eg43v.fsf@gmail.com> <87y5g4gp2c.fsf@gmail.com> <87txp5ocvp.fsf@gmail.com> <877gm1r4lv.fsf@gmail.com> <87fw0pihfz.fsf@gmail.com> <877gm0iyzj.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361527676 6818 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2013 10:07:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13321@debbugs.gnu.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 11:08:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pY6-0000Uc-MI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:08:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39365 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pXm-00068T-0m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:07:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46023) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pXe-00068E-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:07:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pXZ-00024q-Mx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:07:46 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pXZ-00024k-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pYs-0007hA-3j; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13321 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13321-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13321.136152769929526 (code B ref 13321); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13321) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 10:08:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pYA-0007gA-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:08:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]:41271) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8pY6-0007fy-Di for 13321@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:08:16 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn17so689216wib.4 for <13321@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:06:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=G2calyJWEVu8yAFpYYKRoffyd9/ZIR2W01k2fd+/4ts=; b=QLZKvrz030vNhm8cyoegz4UEJrlwqmIvHmybfJ9aiaE4CpdcFosHjldMj4Z+Wm5/wK FAACX+03Vojns4CHqVQtKRi0KJEcl3q+qLReQigosbxwsebLgXg+YqZFd05f7wtUsuTd KunkpBerRoGCvz79Y1TLkF8uJzpRT0OgAJiRCH+kEGgwvEwY2c5mhjKAvvKWdwOOTPCj enpOWvJu6lyA6brlFWJFtsvszVhLdq4QDu0IDNbD6Ku12CHi7PDEBp68QsOwKWjRhBrW TxCvwB2U9x3zlG6iry5D1AzEFmOrNy6+lmthY1cSHXH20EMjKjUX2HJ1OMxgC8q3SemF qAmw== X-Received: by 10.180.94.135 with SMTP id dc7mr37709505wib.11.1361527611494; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:06:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from dell-14z (lbe83-2-78-243-104-167.fbx.proxad.net. [78.243.104.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cf8sm2574597wib.1.2013.02.22.02.06.49 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:06:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:34:34 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71639 Archived-At: Hi Katsumi, Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > Please let me say that a wide reply doesn't contain the author > of an original mail in the recipient list is a bug. To exclude > an invalid address from a wide reply is not a feature; It is not excluded in the patch, it is added to "cc" only if "wide" is specified. > that is a rare exception that the poison is efficacious. Please > imagine, a wide reply to your mail doesn't go to you only: > > (You send a mail) > > From: Thierry Volpiatto > To: emacs-devel > Cc: Lars > Reply-To: emacs-devel > > (I reply to your mail) > > -> From: Katsumi Yamaoka > To: emacs-devel > Cc: Lars > Reply-To: emacs-devel > > (You reply to my reply that you happen to find in Gmane) > > -> From: Thierry Volpiatto > To: emacs-devel > Cc: Lars > Reply-To: emacs-devel > > (I don't notice it) Please have a look at the mail examples I sent in other posts. > Though the emacs-devel list doesn't add Reply-To, not a few lists > do it. I don't think that GitHub doesn't use a valid address in > the From header is a bad manner. But it should have a valid > Reply-To if it allows a mail reply, It have a valid "Reply-To" and with the patch I sent it is used instead of "from". > or should have something like a link to a web form. > >>> Otherwise, feel free to forward an example mail to me. >> Will (re)send in next post. > > Have you sent it already? If so, it may be delayed or... > Anyway I don't need it now, maybe. > >> Here a patch that fix the problem, please review, I am not familiar with >> all these mails headers. > > Unfortunately it's a regression. :( Don't know, but it is better than receiving warning mails from gmail like this: From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Which is not an improvement IMO. Note that with the current state it is impossible to reply with Gnus on github with `R' `F' or whatever without beeing rejected; The patch I sent fix this. The point is that with the patch I sent + the headers of the rejected mail and the original mail where I reply to, you will be able to understand what happen and fix it. Thanks. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997