From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:56:23 +0000 Message-ID: <87620ug04o.fsf@riseup.net> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9q8xt5b.fsf@gmail.com> <83ehfkjocu.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4jjks82.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> <878v5qbsz8.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363229812 19339 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2013 02:56:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:56:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Thu Mar 14 03:57:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UFyLx-0007vE-F0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:57:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41370 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFyLb-0001Ce-12 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35726) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFyLS-0001BB-5H for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFyLP-00074o-CR for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:56:42 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56237) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFyLP-00074e-5R for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UFyLe-0007Zl-Lq for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:56:54 +0100 Original-Received: from ks35731.kimsufi.com ([213.251.185.74]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:56:54 +0100 Original-Received: from wgreenhouse by ks35731.kimsufi.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:56:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ks35731.kimsufi.com X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MEHNiFjITxCrymxHgaX8TGpxZ7A= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157832 Archived-At: Jambunathan, Jambunathan K writes: > Karl Fogel writes: > >> It's clear from looking at the Org Mode dev thread > > It is an error to assume that you (one) can have nuanced understanding > of community dynamics and human motivations by looking at some mailing > list threads scattered here and there. > >> - Accept no further changes from him. >> - Don't let him post on the dev mailing lists any more, period. > > I may have a stinking personality. But the code I write has a secular > nature. The code doesn't take the smell of the hand it types. The code takes the taint and the risk of the copyright troll you are evidently trying to become. Any free software project is well advised to steer clear of known copyright trolls. Indeed, your code was fine until the very moment you decided to use it as a cudgel against your community. The potential that you will do so again is reason enough to exclude it. > This fellow (this is yesterday's post) > > http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org/msg67840.html > > gets on with his business without spinning out conspiracy theories and > venturing in to speculation. That's what a typical beneficiary will be > like when I disappear from the list. It's hardly a "conspiracy theory" or "specualtion" when you state as your goal the disruption, delay, and inconvenience of Org, Emacs, and their users. -- Regards, WGG