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* [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
@ 2013-06-13  6:14 Feng Shu
  2013-06-13 23:55 ` Feng Shu
  2013-06-14 13:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Feng Shu @ 2013-06-13  6:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: orgmode

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#+LATEX_CLASS: article

%%output:

\documentclass[11pt]{article}

...

--------------------------------------

#+LATEX_CLASS: article
#+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart

%%output:

\documentclass[11pt]{ctexart}

....

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From 338ce85c306ae400ba8c62bfaecaf8973346faa0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:36:50 +0800
Subject: [PATCH] Override the default latex class name with a new one

* lisp/ox-latex.el (latex): Add :latex-class-name to :options-alist.
(org-latex-default-latex-class-name): The default name of LaTeX class file.
(org-latex-template): Replace default latex class name with :latex-class-name.

Override  the default latex class name in template. It will be very
useful if you are using a class and it's setting is very similar to
one which has been defined in the `org-latex-classes, for example:

If you want to use latex class: "ctexart"  and you find that it's
setting will be very similar to "article", you don't need to add a
new list to `org-latex-classes, just type:

#+LATEX_CLASS: article
#+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
---
 lisp/ox-latex.el |   16 ++++++++++++++--
 1 个文件被修改,插入 14 行(+),删除 2 行(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ox-latex.el b/lisp/ox-latex.el
index 9172cd7..ecfb0ce 100644
--- a/lisp/ox-latex.el
+++ b/lisp/ox-latex.el
@@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
 	      (if a (org-latex-export-to-pdf t s v b)
 		(org-open-file (org-latex-export-to-pdf nil s v b)))))))
   :options-alist '((:latex-class "LATEX_CLASS" nil org-latex-default-class t)
+		   (:latex-class-name "LATEX_CLASS_NAME" nil org-latex-default-latex-class-name t)
 		   (:latex-class-options "LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS" nil nil t)
 		   (:latex-header "LATEX_HEADER" nil nil newline)
 		   (:latex-header-extra "LATEX_HEADER_EXTRA" nil nil newline)
@@ -182,6 +183,11 @@
   :group 'org-export-latex
   :type '(string :tag "LaTeX class"))
 
+(defcustom org-latex-default-latex-class-name ""
+  "The default name  of LaTeX class file."
+  :group 'org-export-latex
+  :type '(string :tag "LaTeX class"))
+
 (defcustom org-latex-classes
   '(("article"
      "\\documentclass[11pt]{article}"
@@ -1061,15 +1067,21 @@ holding export options."
 	  (format-time-string "%% Created %Y-%m-%d %a %H:%M\n"))
      ;; Document class and packages.
      (let ((class (plist-get info :latex-class))
+	   (latex-class-name (plist-get info :latex-class-name))
 	   (class-options (plist-get info :latex-class-options)))
        (org-element-normalize-string
 	(let* ((header (nth 1 (assoc class org-latex-classes)))
-	       (document-class-string
+	       (document-class-string-tmp
 		(and (stringp header)
 		     (if (not class-options) header
 		       (replace-regexp-in-string
 			"^[ \t]*\\\\documentclass\\(\\(\\[[^]]*\\]\\)?\\)"
-			class-options header t nil 1)))))
+			class-options header t nil 1))))
+	       (document-class-string
+		     (if (not latex-class-name) document-class-string-tmp
+		       (replace-regexp-in-string
+			"^[ \t]*\\\\documentclass\\[[^]]*\\]?{\\(.*\\)}"
+			latex-class-name document-class-string-tmp t nil 1))))
 	  (if (not document-class-string)
 	      (user-error "Unknown LaTeX class `%s'" class)
 	    (org-latex-guess-babel-language
-- 
1.7.10.4


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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-13  6:14 [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one Feng Shu
@ 2013-06-13 23:55 ` Feng Shu
  2013-06-14  9:13   ` Rasmus
  2013-06-14 13:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Feng Shu @ 2013-06-13 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode, carsten.dominik

Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:

> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>
> %%output:
>
> \documentclass[11pt]{article}
>
> ...
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
>
> %%output:
>
> \documentclass[11pt]{ctexart}

Hi:

If possible, please merge this patch to master, thanks!


I think it is a way reusing the exist class defines in `org-latex-classes
If your class is similar with a exist one, 

For example:

#+begin_example

("article"
     "\\documentclass[11pt]{article}"
     ("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}")
     ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
     ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}")
     ("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}")
     ("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}"))

("ctexart"
     "\\documentclass[11pt]{ctexart}"
     ("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}")
     ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
     ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}")
     ("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}")
     ("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}"))

#+end_example

You don't need to add  "ctexart" to `org-latex-classes,

just type:

#+LATEX_CLASS: article
#+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart

>
> ....
>
> -- 
>
> From 338ce85c306ae400ba8c62bfaecaf8973346faa0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:36:50 +0800
> Subject: [PATCH] Override the default latex class name with a new one
>
> * lisp/ox-latex.el (latex): Add :latex-class-name to :options-alist.
> (org-latex-default-latex-class-name): The default name of LaTeX class file.
> (org-latex-template): Replace default latex class name with :latex-class-name.
>
> Override  the default latex class name in template. It will be very
> useful if you are using a class and it's setting is very similar to
> one which has been defined in the `org-latex-classes, for example:
>
> If you want to use latex class: "ctexart"  and you find that it's
> setting will be very similar to "article", you don't need to add a
> new list to `org-latex-classes, just type:
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
> ---
>  lisp/ox-latex.el |   16 ++++++++++++++--
>  1 个文件被修改,插入 14 行(+),删除 2 行(-)
>
> diff --git a/lisp/ox-latex.el b/lisp/ox-latex.el
> index 9172cd7..ecfb0ce 100644
> --- a/lisp/ox-latex.el
> +++ b/lisp/ox-latex.el
> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
>  	      (if a (org-latex-export-to-pdf t s v b)
>  		(org-open-file (org-latex-export-to-pdf nil s v b)))))))
>    :options-alist '((:latex-class "LATEX_CLASS" nil org-latex-default-class t)
> +		   (:latex-class-name "LATEX_CLASS_NAME" nil org-latex-default-latex-class-name t)
>  		   (:latex-class-options "LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS" nil nil t)
>  		   (:latex-header "LATEX_HEADER" nil nil newline)
>  		   (:latex-header-extra "LATEX_HEADER_EXTRA" nil nil newline)
> @@ -182,6 +183,11 @@
>    :group 'org-export-latex
>    :type '(string :tag "LaTeX class"))
>  
> +(defcustom org-latex-default-latex-class-name ""
> +  "The default name  of LaTeX class file."
> +  :group 'org-export-latex
> +  :type '(string :tag "LaTeX class"))
> +
>  (defcustom org-latex-classes
>    '(("article"
>       "\\documentclass[11pt]{article}"
> @@ -1061,15 +1067,21 @@ holding export options."
>  	  (format-time-string "%% Created %Y-%m-%d %a %H:%M\n"))
>       ;; Document class and packages.
>       (let ((class (plist-get info :latex-class))
> +	   (latex-class-name (plist-get info :latex-class-name))
>  	   (class-options (plist-get info :latex-class-options)))
>         (org-element-normalize-string
>  	(let* ((header (nth 1 (assoc class org-latex-classes)))
> -	       (document-class-string
> +	       (document-class-string-tmp
>  		(and (stringp header)
>  		     (if (not class-options) header
>  		       (replace-regexp-in-string
>  			"^[ \t]*\\\\documentclass\\(\\(\\[[^]]*\\]\\)?\\)"
> -			class-options header t nil 1)))))
> +			class-options header t nil 1))))
> +	       (document-class-string
> +		     (if (not latex-class-name) document-class-string-tmp
> +		       (replace-regexp-in-string
> +			"^[ \t]*\\\\documentclass\\[[^]]*\\]?{\\(.*\\)}"
> +			latex-class-name document-class-string-tmp t nil 1))))
>  	  (if (not document-class-string)
>  	      (user-error "Unknown LaTeX class `%s'" class)
>  	    (org-latex-guess-babel-language

-- 

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-13 23:55 ` Feng Shu
@ 2013-06-14  9:13   ` Rasmus
  2013-06-14  9:50     ` Nick Dokos
  2013-06-14  9:55     ` Feng Shu
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2013-06-14  9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tumashu; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:

> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart

I'm not sure this is the right approach. . .  I can certainly see the
value of generating classes on the fly, though.  But somehow the
proposed syntax just seems to counter-intuitive.  I'm not sure how to
overcome this, but perhaps it would be better to allow for an argument
to LATEX_CLASS, e.g.

(*)   #+LATEX_CLASS: myclass :class-name ctexart.

as e.g. the INCLUDE command.  Of course (*) is somewhat different from
how stuff like this is usually handled, cf. e.g. LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS.

–Rasmus

-- 
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14  9:13   ` Rasmus
@ 2013-06-14  9:50     ` Nick Dokos
  2013-06-14 10:09       ` Rasmus
  2013-06-14 10:42       ` Feng Shu
  2013-06-14  9:55     ` Feng Shu
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2013-06-14  9:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
>
> I'm not sure this is the right approach. . .  I can certainly see the
> value of generating classes on the fly, though.  But somehow the
> proposed syntax just seems to counter-intuitive.  I'm not sure how to
> overcome this, but perhaps it would be better to allow for an argument
> to LATEX_CLASS, e.g.
>
> (*)   #+LATEX_CLASS: myclass :class-name ctexart.
>

That was what popped into my head as well - I didn't much care for the
OP's approach.  Now that I've thought about it some more, I'm not sure I
like this one much better...

> as e.g. the INCLUDE command.  Of course (*) is somewhat different from
> how stuff like this is usually handled, cf. e.g. LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS.
>
...but this sounds a bit more promising: maybe LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS can
be eliminated in favor of LATEX_CLASS with arguments:

#+LATEX_CLASS: key :class-name foo :class-options a4paper,12pt

where "key" selects from org-latex-classes (and is optional, default
"article"), class-name is optional and defaults to key (or article if
key is absent).

-- 
Nick

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14  9:13   ` Rasmus
  2013-06-14  9:50     ` Nick Dokos
@ 2013-06-14  9:55     ` Feng Shu
  2013-06-14 11:50       ` Suvayu Ali
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Feng Shu @ 2013-06-14  9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
>
> I'm not sure this is the right approach. . .  I can certainly see the
> value of generating classes on the fly, though.  But somehow the
> proposed syntax just seems to counter-intuitive.  I'm not sure how to
> overcome this, but perhaps it would be better to allow for an argument
> to LATEX_CLASS, e.g.
>
> (*)   #+LATEX_CLASS: myclass :class-name ctexart.


CLASS and class-name are confusing,  I think LATEX_CLASS should rename
to LATEX_CLASS_FORMAT or LATEX_CLASS_TEMPLATE, but this will break 
compatibility.

>
> as e.g. the INCLUDE command.  Of course (*) is somewhat different from
> how stuff like this is usually handled, cf. e.g. LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS.
>
> –Rasmus

-- 

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14  9:50     ` Nick Dokos
@ 2013-06-14 10:09       ` Rasmus
  2013-06-14 10:42       ` Feng Shu
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2013-06-14 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:
>> as e.g. the INCLUDE command.  Of course (*) is somewhat different from
>> how stuff like this is usually handled, cf. e.g. LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS.
>>
> ...but this sounds a bit more promising: maybe LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS can
> be eliminated in favor of LATEX_CLASS with arguments:
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS: key :class-name foo :class-options a4paper,12pt
>
> where "key" selects from org-latex-classes (and is optional, default
> "article"), class-name is optional and defaults to key (or article if
> key is absent).

Yeah, I instantly though of getting rid of class options as well: and
I'm all for it!  

Another issue is that class options are overwritten.  Perhaps that's
an issue for another thread, however.

–Rasmus

-- 
A page of history is worth a volume of logic

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14  9:50     ` Nick Dokos
  2013-06-14 10:09       ` Rasmus
@ 2013-06-14 10:42       ` Feng Shu
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Feng Shu @ 2013-06-14 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>
>> Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>>> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
>>
>> I'm not sure this is the right approach. . .  I can certainly see the
>> value of generating classes on the fly, though.  But somehow the
>> proposed syntax just seems to counter-intuitive.  I'm not sure how to
>> overcome this, but perhaps it would be better to allow for an argument
>> to LATEX_CLASS, e.g.
>>
>> (*)   #+LATEX_CLASS: myclass :class-name ctexart.
>>
>
> That was what popped into my head as well - I didn't much care for the
> OP's approach.  Now that I've thought about it some more, I'm not sure I
> like this one much better...
>
>> as e.g. the INCLUDE command.  Of course (*) is somewhat different from
>> how stuff like this is usually handled, cf. e.g. LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS.
>>
> ...but this sounds a bit more promising: maybe LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS can
> be eliminated in favor of LATEX_CLASS with arguments:
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS: key :class-name foo :class-options a4paper,12pt

May be we should add this feature too:

#+LaTEX_CLASS: key :class-name foo :class-options+  twoside
#+LaTEX_CLASS: key :class-name foo :class-options-  twoside

>
> where "key" selects from org-latex-classes (and is optional, default
> "article"), class-name is optional and defaults to key (or article if
> key is absent).

-- 

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14  9:55     ` Feng Shu
@ 2013-06-14 11:50       ` Suvayu Ali
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Suvayu Ali @ 2013-06-14 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 05:55:56PM +0800, Feng Shu wrote:
> 
> CLASS and class-name are confusing,  I think LATEX_CLASS should rename
> to LATEX_CLASS_FORMAT or LATEX_CLASS_TEMPLATE, but this will break 
> compatibility.

IMO compatibility is a big and important issue, and not to be taken
lightly.

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-13  6:14 [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one Feng Shu
  2013-06-13 23:55 ` Feng Shu
@ 2013-06-14 13:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2013-06-14 15:13   ` Feng Shu
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-06-14 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Feng Shu; +Cc: orgmode

Hello,

Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:

> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>
> %%output:
>
> \documentclass[11pt]{article}
>
> ...
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
>
> %%output:
>
> \documentclass[11pt]{ctexart}
>
> ....

Thanks for your patch.

Though, it adds another keyword and another defcustom without providing
any new functionality. I understand it is a shortcut, but the cons, IMO,
outweigh the pros : adding a new class to `org-latex-classes' is a bit
more tedious, but needs to be done only once.

Therefore, unless you convince me this feature brings something new, or
clearly eases a process, I'll stand on my ground.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14 13:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-06-14 15:13   ` Feng Shu
  2013-06-18 19:34     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Feng Shu @ 2013-06-14 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: orgmode

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>>
>> %%output:
>>
>> \documentclass[11pt]{article}
>>
>> ...
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>>
>> #+LATEX_CLASS: article
>> #+LATEX_CLASS_NAME: ctexart
>>
>> %%output:
>>
>> \documentclass[11pt]{ctexart}
>>
>> ....
>
> Thanks for your patch.
>
> Though, it adds another keyword and another defcustom without providing
> any new functionality. I understand it is a shortcut, but the cons, IMO,
> outweigh the pros : adding a new class to `org-latex-classes' is a bit
> more tedious, but needs to be done only once.
>
> Therefore, unless you convince me this feature brings something new, or
> clearly eases a process, I'll stand on my ground.

Not all the org-mode users are expert of lisp and  not all of the org-mode
users are well in English, so finding the variable `org-latex-classes can
customize latex class and adding  a lisp block to it  may be not a easy
things for many users. 

So I expect org-mode can properly export latex without any configure,
but it is impossible for the complexity of tex system. So 

reusing exist `org-latex-classes items will become  a valuable thing, 
it should be implement. My patch is not best way to implement and it can 
be deny, but the problem can't be ignore. 

1. we can add a function `(defun org-latex-add-deriverd-class (class exist-class) ...)  to menupulate `org-latex-classes
2. My patch's approach.
3. others.


>
>
> Regards,

-- 

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-14 15:13   ` Feng Shu
@ 2013-06-18 19:34     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2013-06-18 22:33       ` Rasmus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-06-18 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Feng Shu; +Cc: orgmode

Hello,

Feng Shu <tumashu@gmail.com> writes:

> Not all the org-mode users are expert of lisp and  not all of the org-mode
> users are well in English, so finding the variable `org-latex-classes can
> customize latex class and adding  a lisp block to it  may be not a easy
> things for many users.

I understand, and I agree we should make this very important variable
understandable to any user.

> 1. we can add a function `(defun org-latex-add-deriverd-class (class exist-class) ...)  to menupulate `org-latex-classes
> 2. My patch's approach.
> 3. others.

We can modify `org-latex-classes' docstring (e.g. by adding examples) so
it is easier to understand. I'd rather have a patch in that direction
than to add yet another variable and keyword.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: [PATCH] Override the default class name with a new one.
  2013-06-18 19:34     ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-06-18 22:33       ` Rasmus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2013-06-18 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: n.goaziou; +Cc: tumashu, emacs-orgmode

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

>> 1. we can add a function `(defun org-latex-add-deriverd-class (class
>> exist-class) ...)  to menupulate `org-latex-classes
>> 2. My patch's approach.
>> 3. others.
>
> We can modify `org-latex-classes' docstring (e.g. by adding examples) so
> it is easier to understand. I'd rather have a patch in that direction
> than to add yet another variable and keyword.

Perhaps the users who'd feel uncomfortable with add-to-list of
org-latex-class are more likely to read org.texi (or more likely
org.html).

I'm working on adding a paragraph/example to org.texi.

I still think changing document class on the fly might be useful
although not really necessary

–Rasmus 

-- 
Send from my Emacs

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