From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:10:52 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <8761vsicib.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87y58pplcp.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375179322 21204 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2013 10:15:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:15:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 12:15:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V46xd-0004Pm-2f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:15:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36281 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V46xc-0007Ap-Bv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:15:20 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:NUbcrtILUtUN1Bd8v5Wia2Vr4Pc= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200270 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92537 Archived-At: Jambunathan K writes: > | They used a manual someone had written which showed how to > | extend Emacs, but didn't say it was a programming. So the > | secretaries, who believed they couldn't do programming, > | weren't scared off. They read the manual, discovered they > | could do useful things and they learned to program. > > The magic phrases are - "didn't say it was a programming" and > "believed". I believe in phrases, but not in magic. What: "I told a girl she should do programming, and she said 'Oh, little ol' me, that's boys' stuff', and run away. Next time, I was a bit more clever, and more intelligent with respect to the 'girl psyche', so I didn't mention programming, and it worked like a charm." I don't believe in that. I believe in capacity, and those girls had it. From there, it is the easiest thing in the world to bring forward that capacity, and you don't have to resort to any Slim Shady street smartness to do it. The honor belongs to those girls, and not to some dude 'fooling' them into doing what he wanted them to. (Of course, *he* didn't need any fooling. He got it right from day one!) > Not a poet here. That was an example. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573