From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:23:27 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <8761t1ezzr.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381692315 14476 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2013 19:25:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 19:25:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 13 21:25:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VVRI0-0003fm-Ia for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:25:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34351 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVRHx-0002hH-WD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:25:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:z89G8ZPIP2QcBl8Gyh4hGo1Zc4Q= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201732 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94001 Archived-At: Alex Schroeder writes: > What you call "Windows" is just one of many window > systems that has come in and out of fashion during the > lifetime of Emacs. Emacs (in one version or another) > has supported most of them, SunView, NeWS, X10, X11 > (Open Look, Athena, Motif), PM, Win32, Mac. Emacs has > provided a sound foundation that has allowed > programmers to be productive with all these, and will > also provide a foundation for whatever window system > will be hot tomorrow. The way I see it, Emacs doesn't have that much to do with all that. I don't use Emacs because I use an OS with (or without) a GUI or a window system, I use Emacs (and the shell) to get away from all that, and if I *were* to use Emacs in X, I don't see that changing my Emacs ways. But yes, there have to be some very minor changes (or things enabled) that have mostly to do with the interface - the clipboard is a good example, do you want that integrated with the kill ring? Perhaps, if you write LaTeX, you'd like xpdf (or evince) in a separate window to display updates (almost) on the fly. Installation, the fonts... But all that stuff would still be considered minor, don't you think? -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573