From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:48:17 +0530 Message-ID: <8761rrigqe.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384676285 30608 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2013 08:18:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 09:18:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VhxYW-0000Jg-Rs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:18:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38342 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhxYV-0005lU-W8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:18:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhxYO-0005lK-Ja for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:18:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhxYJ-0004x7-9N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:18:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]:57518) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhxYJ-0004x3-26; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:17:55 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id lf10so5432988pab.36 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:17:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=wKV+rW7kmEh0QYijEk8flyeRdqG6l8xwyOpDnhCdZ1A=; b=dkAuetbjniDIbT/FW9Z46jGu/qjKdi7yrSwhQZLx/kY6uhPmxMVXvJ3p3lPBXQm9Wu 4aVsgd3yz9JgopAocBq6dIDxwxhrAPy2qTkulxT5D9fcFEq8zkXvlVFnm8hF3xFcHHXy ejJTt5TAP4ibR45Z4hc+yYy6x+oQ+j1CNHyUNp17YRcT3j//qmGZa244ZiFukv/e8IaT XLyMUnnjfiRfQw1PaE5J7A7HyV9dycmeVcbfs/Q4l/1W0gjHELWgDlD/353ls7CSWGTJ vrxPojbNx8EafcBd5Fevb+i1bCX0R/mAuspI8/oPHZGpOuvUXpPIAscqv67S7tlF/z/c UApA== X-Received: by 10.66.129.169 with SMTP id nx9mr5393177pab.130.1384676273928; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:17:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.172.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qw8sm15559462pbb.27.2013.11.17.00.17.51 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:17:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:28:51 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165292 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > 25 years ago I hoped we would extend Emacs to do WYSIWG word > processing. That is why we added text properties and variable width > fonts. However, more features are still needed to achieve this. > > Could people please start working on the features that are needed? 1. What would you recommend as the backend format? 2. Do you consider Orgmode - a text markup format - as a "Word Processor"? 3. Can someone more familiar with internals of Emacs write-up a statement or two on what *specific* features are needed to move towards the "Word Processor" world. ps: I like editing and modifying text with Emacs. For reading text or viewing, I feel Emacs falls way short.