From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Swamp Gas Emacs, GNU, Linux, and more Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 07:54:26 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <8761ozxqys.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391237711 7317 80.91.229.3 (1 Feb 2014 06:55:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 06:55:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 01 07:55:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W9UU3-0001yU-Vh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 07:55:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60425 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9UU3-0005QR-Kp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 01:55:19 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AQJLjONZzCBQ6kNclZAppN/GuYI= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:203604 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:95873 Archived-At: The GNU project must have been fucking amazing. Just imagine to have a wonderful system, including all the tools, so everything is interconnected with the same interface but still isolated. And everything in C. This is why it always frustrates me to hear RMS or some other GNU fanatic express negativism what the f--- to call Linux (and more). If you can't appreciate *that*, you are out of perspective for good! Today, consider the game industry. How many people are involved in that? Well, OK, it's the nature of consumer products that people want new things. And also it follows the hardware in intricate yet somewhat predictable ways so there are new things to do and more money to make. But what about the Ubuntu project - ?! And the Debian project (if you think your Gnus lacks activity, just hook up to linux.debian.user). And those are *distributions*! The Linux kernel itself - the LKML traffic is *immense*. And here we talk about a noninteractive, compiled *kernel*, so you shouldn't even notice it! But a kernel is obviously related to hardware just as games, which might amount for some. But isn't it much more natural to take an interest in the things that are closer to you, that you use (in a feedback sense)? I know some people who read books on beards - and they all have beards! My hunch is, this is a dead end. Like 3/4 or half of all software people should stop doing what they're doing, because it is all in terms of technology anyway, and instead write software to improve the mental-physical and emotional-social health of the entire population. We need a second revolution of computer altruism now that free software/open source/portable OSs/piracy/information access/whatever is not an issue anymore. It is time to kill the darlings, and get new ones. I'm looking forward to reading what you have to say about this. This isn't new thoughts. Use private mail if that feels better. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573