From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: is undefined Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:33:09 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <8761n5z54q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395563619 29658 80.91.229.3 (23 Mar 2014 08:33:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:33:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 23 09:33:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRdqh-0002fi-Q2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:33:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59273 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRdqh-0007ft-Ax for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:33:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRdqX-0007fg-0x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRdqP-0005Sk-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:33:32 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRdqP-0005Sa-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:33:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRdqL-0002Lp-Uh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:33:21 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f422c0.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.34.192]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:33:21 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f422c0.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:33:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f422c0.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4q85rUrpOh4APwIhtJ3IVOjggoQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170835 Archived-At: After upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 (and using Cinnamon), I can no longer use . Emacs flashes at me and displays " is undefined". This happened with a binary compiled before the upgrade, and it also happens after I bootstrapped and built Emacs from a clean directory right now. The toolkit used is GTK3 (without toolkit scroll-bars, but I should be surprised if that made a difference). Any pointers? Using input modes is quite less convenient than relying on Multi_key for me. What should I be testing? What info might help further pinpointing this? I think it's important to get this fixed before the next release. Many programmers use an American keyboard layout rather than a local one (because of characters like []{}|) and rely on Multi_key for their non-English correspondence and text processing. Now this is clearly related to upgrading the base system, but things like the terminal window continue working with Multi_key just fine. -- David Kastrup