From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sharon Kimble Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Documentation on the command-line? Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 19:53:15 +0100 Message-ID: <8761jg9ahw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> References: <87ha31qbnr.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1404240834 28633 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2014 18:53:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:53:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 01 20:53:49 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X23Bc-0001zh-Qm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:53:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49445 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X23Bc-0007aw-97 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 14:53:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50385) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X23BN-0007ap-2B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 14:53:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X23BH-0002EK-Ag for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 14:53:32 -0400 Original-Received: from avasout04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]:35683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X23BH-0002D8-3w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 14:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from london ([87.113.62.235]) by avasout04 with smtp id M6tP1o00154Xw6n016tRYU; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 19:53:26 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=OZcWD3jY c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=ghyiixEhfiOnuEZknAzLeA==:117 a=ghyiixEhfiOnuEZknAzLeA==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=EGPZCNv1iLEA:10 a=ayhl3cPKrkEA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=LlzXLoV6AAAA:8 a=xtERp6CFAAAA:8 a=iI7HsYTVAAAA:8 a=JYLvzQyQ7zdfmiiBE0gA:9 a=kmTO3UBF5W1CorlQ:21 a=upfMU5eEQhoJbpWJ:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=7frnbCNWaG0A:10 a=xdnplzdf9CH7yH-CjLoA:9 X-AUTH: skimble:2500 In-Reply-To: <87ha31qbnr.fsf@debian.uxu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Tue, 01 Jul 2014 18:36:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 212.159.14.19 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98491 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emanuel Berg writes: > Sharon Kimble writes: > >> I'm trying to find the documentation of "fancyhdr", >> part of "Texlive", and I've tried man fancyhdr, info >> fancyhdr, show fancyhdr. >> >> but its failing on all of them. > > Yes :) > > man are the Unix manpages and they deal with Unix tools > as well as Unix C programming because of their common > history not to say symbiosis to this very day. > > info was the documentation project of the GNU people, > it is hypertext just like the Internet (and the man > pages, but the man much less so) - the interface of > info is more bulky than the default for the man pages, > which is why those are preferred by most (not all) > people then and now. When the internet hit big, I would > suspect some steam went of the info project. > > What is show? That=E2=80=99s actually a 'bash-alias' I've set up and this is the line - =E2=95=AD=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 =E2=94=82alias show=3D'apt-cache show' =E2=95=B0=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 which shows a very descriptive description of the programme, giving package size, homepage, etc.=20 > > There is a man page for Emacs, and 'info emacs' gets > you the Emacs FAQ. By the way, note how similar info > looks to Emacs. As for man (as a tool), it is an > interface to the pager less, I would think. > > As for packages, the kind you install on your computer, > if you are on Debian or Ubuntu or some or their zillion > forks, you can get an idea with 'aptitude show' - I > wouldn't call this "documentation", though, but > sometimes good URLs and the like can be found. Sounds very similar to "apt-cache show". > >> So how do I get the documentation for an emacs or a >> latex package to show on the command-line please? > > With Emacs stuff, there is no reason to use the shell > for that, use the very elaborate > online-and-dynamic-and-associated help system (not on > paper, and immediately updated, and written next to the > code it relates to). But don't you know that already?! > If not, I have news for you :) > > describe-function > describe-mode > describe-variable > etc. (For more: `C-h ?' for help-for-help) > > Or hit `C-h k' and then whatever key - cool, isn't it? I've never had any success with `C-h k' or similar, so I tend to use "F1 v/k/whatever" which gets the same result.=20 > > For LaTeX, there is something called "TeX by Topic" as > well as the CLI tool tlmgr - go fish :) > Yes I am on Debian testing, and a quick play shows that 'tlmgr' does work even though everything in 'tex-live' was installed using the Debian package manager, in fact, there was a major upgrade this morning. Thanks Sharon. =2D-=20 A taste of linux =3D http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo =3D https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds =3D http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.92.1 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTswObAAoJEDaBgBkK+INbuncQAJv42MH7Um9tBRHLSqyL+0ui 2V/L4ClSIqPrnk0RJSt1KPpMGk0btdv/JafsrF0Zo5nw3HWi4K3q+eMwzOjI1SEf oibwUOmSguEAEjdpJ8o5NU56HcnZAD8XybI97EFZwPX4Gp210MahL9brHnaxMulx aRKbcGzCCJft7/IljYifcr1fIEyfJvb/Z+BNHD8zf8sFfpFBjBECAiooIF4pIoto +B3GkH/Xt6uKMyjPfhcoV+fvFRakd8rbTVTYWElSlptou/kJDT+z4FE+FiKkvw1B bwZbEPtK4DW1C4CNFwo7qNZkWNap23wfe7FYwdj3Bfviq9/uLipNT/44VzhPH7AF tI1Z5a8lgH7cPWWCRnp4SZkqShgEKcP9FlySnmc3C/h47re/kebEYMAaZJGTArg1 q0qB9Y692FcXjok1VasGCNIUROfjhxulg/Y876YhzuUwE1zXRcro2h2dftKJXAtB GtKLmnvLKwrTQpDwi1QdiiDT7Zj56hkAQ/yT99+dMdGhHNYfMyHON0ulMsghGT2N jUgtbUm09dwbMGmcnPWZfSY2ki8aHzNy+W+gU/BgW8EBxhhw9mCOvIwAQI5vquDA zSb8U6WPf0UQiQIA79VrQFbmrcvP3OalSXWir1QOg2R/eJ0h3/PHxbOAQL8XHyXl RKNioMRY5GE/Hq28RpSc =UHMQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--