From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Udyant Wig Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs stackexchange beta site Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:28:37 +0530 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <8761gibwwy.fsf@panda.goosenet.in> References: <874mw5q15w.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a95wy73q.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761gkdto0.fsf@panda.goosenet.in> <877g0zcufb.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411196422 10923 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2014 07:00:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:00:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 09:00:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XVEeX-00043T-5G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33583 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVEeW-0002aQ-Ms for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 03:00:16 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 75 Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="54f2caf310278e3b77822510e233cd4d"; logging-data="25244"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/A7uXkeCbbWFyfoyUe+Qh0" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:U/o1E8PI7xXOLAaZIorhQtxPmOM= sha1:ogFofWxE+5MBadZ4107onPje6LI= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207789 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100063 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: | I have already said some of the reasons. Pascal said | some of the same things slightly differently, and added | some more. In principle, I agree with what he said, | though in practice I don't really mind Google spying on | me. Why do you not mind Google spying on you? I ask because most of my reading on various fora had very vocal participants making known their outrage in no uncertain terms. So, I would much appreciate a different view on this. | But OK: | | : | What I don't like with SX: | | I assume they want participants to be nice and civil even while discussing matters technical. Isn't that what moderation is all about? | I do not see the movement toward a GUI future abating. Non-GUI fora like Usenet will perpetually be the shade under the trees by the road in that future. | I take it that "extended discussions" are "not constructive" and hence get "closed". | But: discussion you should take part in, it is an | interaction between people (the famous distributed | peer-to-peer review of the FOSS world), or, if you are | a lurker, follow step by step. So this is why I give | the SX a half point - in the Google problem-solving | world, you don't want to wade through never-ending | Usenet threads: you just want an answer. So Google and | SX is a good match and I won't pretend I wasn't helped | numerous times. I wrote in comp.lang.c recently that I used to spend some time every now and then going through the archives of Usenet with Google's old interface. It had been a fascinating experience every time. But with the upgrade to the new JS-heavy interface, such exploration is hindered by its ease of use. | While it is true that Google reduces the attention span | in time and in space, and it by itself cannot offer | deep understanding, sometimes you are just stuck on a | detail and that isn't even in your big-hefted book you | just read. Here is where Google can help you, so you | don't get stuck and can move on to bigger and better | things. I have done this myself, always making a note to read up on the point later. | | | Such a system or its variants are in widespread use on many fora, e.g. on Reddit, where the voting system tends to push popular answers to the top of a thread, but which may or may not be sound or valid. -- Udyant Wig GitHub: https://github.com/udyant Poetry: http://www.writing.com/main/profile/biography/frosthrone