From: Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs stackexchange beta site
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:28:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761gibwwy.fsf@panda.goosenet.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 877g0zcufb.fsf@debian.uxu
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
| I have already said some of the reasons. Pascal said
| some of the same things slightly differently, and added
| some more. In principle, I agree with what he said,
| though in practice I don't really mind Google spying on
| me.
Why do you not mind Google spying on you?
I ask because most of my reading on various fora had very vocal
participants making known their outrage in no uncertain terms. So, I
would much appreciate a different view on this.
| But OK:
|
| <snip comparison between general/mass tools and specific/expert tools>
:
| What I don't like with SX:
|
| <snip displeasure at enforced goodness on SX>
I assume they want participants to be nice and civil even while
discussing matters technical. Isn't that what moderation is all about?
| <snip displeasure at the distractiveness of the Web interfaces>
I do not see the movement toward a GUI future abating. Non-GUI fora
like Usenet will perpetually be the shade under the trees by the road
in that future.
| <snip displeasure at lack of discursive participation>
I take it that "extended discussions" are "not constructive" and hence
get "closed".
| But: discussion you should take part in, it is an
| interaction between people (the famous distributed
| peer-to-peer review of the FOSS world), or, if you are
| a lurker, follow step by step. So this is why I give
| the SX a half point - in the Google problem-solving
| world, you don't want to wade through never-ending
| Usenet threads: you just want an answer. So Google and
| SX is a good match and I won't pretend I wasn't helped
| numerous times.
I wrote in comp.lang.c recently that I used to spend some time every
now and then going through the archives of Usenet with Google's old
interface. It had been a fascinating experience every time. But with
the upgrade to the new JS-heavy interface, such exploration is hindered
by its ease of use.
| While it is true that Google reduces the attention span
| in time and in space, and it by itself cannot offer
| deep understanding, sometimes you are just stuck on a
| detail and that isn't even in your big-hefted book you
| just read. Here is where Google can help you, so you
| don't get stuck and can move on to bigger and better
| things.
I have done this myself, always making a note to read up on the point
later.
| <snip postulation of tool with better interface doing Google's job>
|
| <snip displeasure at the reputation system>
Such a system or its variants are in widespread use on many fora,
e.g. on Reddit, where the voting system tends to push popular answers
to the top of a thread, but which may or may not be sound or valid.
--
Udyant Wig
GitHub: https://github.com/udyant
Poetry: http://www.writing.com/main/profile/biography/frosthrone
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2014-09-17 23:26 ` emacs stackexchange beta site Emanuel Berg
2014-09-18 2:06 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.9072.1411006041.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-18 21:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-18 23:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 13:34 ` Tom
2014-09-19 14:53 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.9197.1411138427.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 19:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 19:58 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.9231.1411156757.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 20:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 20:44 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.9235.1411159521.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 21:01 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.9194.1411136428.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 19:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 19:55 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.9230.1411156541.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 20:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 6:13 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-19 17:57 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.9215.1411149649.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 18:53 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-19 19:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 19:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 23:46 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-09-20 1:24 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.9241.1411170621.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-20 6:14 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-20 14:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-21 10:09 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-21 15:52 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.9244.1411176300.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-20 6:17 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-19 18:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 18:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-20 6:58 ` Udyant Wig [this message]
2014-09-20 15:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-21 10:04 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-21 15:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-22 5:10 ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-22 22:44 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.9168.1411115739.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 19:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-17 22:36 Ian Kelling
2014-10-11 13:33 ` Bastien
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2014-10-17 0:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-10-17 0:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-10-17 21:37 ` Artur Malabarba
[not found] ` <mailman.11408.1413582659.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-17 22:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-10-18 14:33 ` Rainer M Krug
2014-10-18 17:06 ` Artur Malabarba
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