From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Undocumented menu feature? Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 22:42:54 +0200 Message-ID: <8761g09969.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> References: <1892FD19-39D4-4825-AB8C-CE13C5268CF3@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412369001 14605 80.91.229.3 (3 Oct 2014 20:43:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 20:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sergey Organov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 03 22:43:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xa9h4-0007al-SC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 22:43:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41190 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xa9h4-0004pb-Bv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:43:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55657) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xa9gw-0004pT-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xa9gr-0004mO-JZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:57659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xa9gr-0004mK-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.81.81]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MhNk6-1XvggX1Ag6-00MYmD; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 22:42:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1892FD19-39D4-4825-AB8C-CE13C5268CF3@swipnet.se> ("Jan \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Dj\=C3\=A4rv\=22's\?\= message of "Thu, 2 Oct 2014 18:50:24 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.93 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GbBgDckHPr42iqkzLfN582qm6qT/iSXv/zQ/db3E73uo2usV5iY m/3MuMOz8OapzY8x/lT7/WswU8+2gd8eJoXovi2jSvvybmTZiXDUKK/i0E4Bjb2DFnhUN98 qsa7Q1P9p8C1L6X0j0irighqCKXRoIGqGJQTCaugl8x5XI/L7fhyolJqe8kfe06GOHQpofz ZSruBxMR/7YkKN4peNieQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174955 Archived-At: On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 18:50:24 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: > Hi. > > 2 okt 2014 kl. 17:46 skrev Sergey Organov : > >> Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: >>=20 >>> Hi. >>>=20 >>> 2 okt 2014 kl. 16:34 skrev Sergey Organov : >>>=20 >>>> Hello, >>>>=20 >>>> I've asked this in help-gnu-emacs, but nobody seems to have a clue >>>> there. Hopefully some developer(s) knwow. >>>>=20 >>>> Here is the reference: >>>>=20 >>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2014-10/msg00007.html >>>>=20 >>>> And here is my original question: >>>>=20 >>>> I suddenly found that my emacs (GNU Emacs 23.2.1, running on >>>> Debian/Gnome) is capable of "detaching" some sub-menus and putting them >>>> into separate frames. For example, if I click "File" in the main menu, >>>> submenu appears containing dashed line at the top, and if I click on >>>> that dashed line, entire "File" submenu appears in a separate frame. >>>>=20 >>>> I can't find anything about the feature by googling for it. Could some= body >>>> please point me to relevant documentation? >>>=20 >>> We don't have Emacs specific documentation for this, it is a standard >>> Gtk+ feature. About to be deprecated in Gtk+ I think. >>=20 >> Thanks, but first I don't see it in any other application but Emacs, and >> second it looks to be somehow controlled from within Emacs: >>=20 >> Some of Emacs submenus do have it, and some don't. For example, in >> "Options", the "Line Wrapping in this Buffer" submenu has the dashed >> line, while neither "Mule (Multilingual Environment)" nor "Customize >> Emacs" have one. >>=20 >> I can't figure any template, as some submenus of non-detachable menus >> could be detachable, and vice versa. Moreover, ["Tools" "Spell >> Checking"] has this active dashed line right in the middle (between=20 >> "Complete Word Fragment" and "Complete Word"), not at the top. > > I don't have this, it mihgt be a Gtk theme issue. I have dashed lines on= all > menus at the top. I also don't see the dashed line in the middle of the submenues Sergey refers to; however, I did see it once in the Todo mode submenu "Display and Printing", but after leaving and revisiting the Todo buffer, the dashed line was at the top of that submenu, as with all other submenues, and I haven't seen the odd display again, so perhaps there is some kind of timing issue or race condition in the Gtk display. On the other hand, I do confirm the lack of a dashed line in the Options submenu "Customize Emacs", also with -Q and every time I've tried since the OP prompted me to look; so this seems to be a different bug. (However, that submenu is the only one where I've seen the dashed line missing; unlike the OP, I do see the line in the "Mule" submenu.) Steve Berman