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From: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:31:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761emkm7l.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwq72cw6b.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:26:14 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> I provided URLs to Pallet's repo on Github and to Nic's comparison of
>> Cask (which Pallet uses underneath) and elpakit (the comparison is on
>> the elpakit repo home page, also on Github).  I described how Pallet
>> currently works with advice and how it could be improved to use hooks.
>> Sorry if I didn't explain things better.  What's unclear?
>
> I guess I just don't understand what those things do, nor how they do
> it, and your explanations didn't really help.
>
> E.g. does one of those things make it so that M-x package-install will
> add the package to some list of "explicitly installed packages"?
> If so, which tool, and how does it do it?  AFAICT it can only do that
> via advice currently.  Of course, it can be changed to use hooks, but
> why bother, when we can just modify package-install directly?

Having thought about it that seems like the best thing. Just add another
property to the package somehow that says "the user installed this
directly". Maybe keep that along side the archive as well as in the
archive so that it can be mixed in when you refresh the indexes.

It would be nice to keep it as a directory structure because they are
easier to edit:

.emacs.d/elpa/
.emacs.d/elpa/archives/
.emacs.d/elpa/archives/marmalade/
.emacs.d/elpa/archives/gnu/
.emacs.d/elpa/archives/user-installed/
.emacs.d/elpa/archives/user-installed/elnode
.emacs.d/elpa/archives/user-installed/rcirc


Nic



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-11 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 13:45 package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 14:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-07 19:50   ` joakim
2014-11-08  4:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 14:55   ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-10 17:46     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-10 20:27       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-10 21:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 22:02           ` package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Nic Ferrier
2014-11-10 23:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  2:53               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-11 11:41               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 17:17                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 17:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 16:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:15                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 15:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 17:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 18:04                     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-12  3:20                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-12  6:48                         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-11 17:27                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 18:20               ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 16:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-12 17:51                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 20:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 21:39                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 22:40                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 23:01                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 23:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13  1:09                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-13  5:06                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-13 14:59                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-15 17:09                             ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-15 18:20                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-16  3:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13  8:18                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-13 10:53                         ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-13 14:54                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-14 11:04                             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-14 22:56                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 18:15                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 22:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 20:21                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 13:05               ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-11 13:30             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-11 14:12               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:13                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 16:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:02                       ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-12 17:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 21:37       ` package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  1:29         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-11  2:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  2:59             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-11  3:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 12:44                 ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-11 13:31                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 11:31             ` Nic Ferrier [this message]
2014-11-11 16:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:10                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 19:36                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 20:40                     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 21:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 22:17                         ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 22:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 23:26                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13  0:21                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 20:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-08  4:29   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08 23:18     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-09  3:17       ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-11-11 20:55 Robert Dallas Gray
2014-11-11 21:34 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13 10:46   ` Phillip Lord

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