From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:51:13 +0000 Message-ID: <8761eki9ym.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415814696 20887 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2014 17:51:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Achim Gratz , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 12 18:51:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xoc4n-0002zb-3b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:51:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56131 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xoc4m-0007I7-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:51:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xoc4e-0007GK-JD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:51:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xoc4Y-00023H-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:51:20 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:56165 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xoc4Y-00023A-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 83812AC00E2; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:09:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 236496BA00; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:51:13 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:13:25 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176833 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> that package. So the first question to decide would be if elpa.git is a >> source archive or a package archive. > > I want it to be a source archive. You're wrong to want that for several reasons: - you constrain packages to have source that is managed only by the elpa.git makefile - you hide the build system from most authors - eventually it won't scale, massive branching in a git repo just to manage totally different packages is not what git was made for. I don't understand why you don't do the obvious thing that nearly every packaging system does and accept the need for specifically made artifacts. Nic