From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:24 +0100 Message-ID: <8761dxvn1j.fsf@igel.home> References: <87a93cngwv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyfml31.fsf@gnu.org> <874mtio7wh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r3wml8kq.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjb9an0q.fsf@gnu.org> <83vblxaloh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417288395 28020 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2014 19:13:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 20:13:07 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XunS5-00044y-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:13:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XunS5-0003io-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:13:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38212) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XunRo-0003id-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:12:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XunRi-00074J-S4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:12:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:55559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XunRa-0006zq-1I; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:12:34 -0500 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3jqj593hvjz3hk6y; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3jqj591lW5zvh3g; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2rE68xP0FO5L; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:25 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: JM4yms9BI/1qzmOkyrPJVRKiFkwNEBAudk5Efm3DXDn39Lwg8DmKU2plKVAf7S2n Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-188-174-145-11.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.145.11]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D51682C37BA; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:24 +0100 (CET) X-Yow: I want a VEGETARIAN BURRITO to go.. with EXTRA MSG!! In-Reply-To: <83vblxaloh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:47:26 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 212.18.0.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178475 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:33:47 +0100 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > I think instead of removing them it is better to display them >> > prominently, e.g., by changing their entry in the >> > glyphless-char-display char-table. The advantage is that you don't >> > accidentally harm the display where these controls are used >> > legitimately, and OTOH make their presence acutely evident. >> >> Yeah, isn't that a bit too intrusive if done generally? > > I didn't suggest to do that generally, just in Web pages. These > format controls are discouraged in Web pages anyway; the use of HTML > bidi markup dir="rtl" etc. is advised instead. But the problem at hand is not relevant to Web pages. The URL in an anchor is always a separate entity. Only non-HTML text where URLs are made active by heuristics are the case to worry about. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."