From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Long file names in Dired Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 03:29:50 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87618lro4x.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87sibq9v12.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429925132 10324 80.91.229.3 (25 Apr 2015 01:25:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 01:25:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 25 03:25:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YloqL-0006lq-Eg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 03:25:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47039 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YloqK-0005By-4c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:25:16 -0400 X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 78.192.65.63 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!news.muarf.org!news.ecp.fr!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 58 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:itiV/NFGNYcwddJK65yTWklLjPM= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211706 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103988 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski writes: > (And I have reasons - basically, BibTeX is a pile of > crap. I agree that it /is/ less unusable for writing > in English exclusively, but again - it creates /a > lot/ more problems than it solves.) You mean you write in Polish at your universities? (Not to say LaTeX, BibTeX, etc. cannot be used outside them walls of science, of course: I always said if writers learned LaTeX - and some HTML and CSS for PR - they would put the entire publishing industry out of business.) > That said, I like that idea, though I would use > BibLaTeX (which is a modern replacement for BibTeX, > curing many - even though not all - of its problems > (the main one which it doesn't help is the format > for multiple authors), or amsrefs, which is less > powerful than Bib(La)TeX, but has a much saner > format for multiple names (and is /way/ easier to > configure than Bib(La)TeX). I have no experience with amsrefs. I am unsure if I use BibTeX or BibLaTeX. This is the part of the Makefile that does the .bib file: biber -q ${name} # get .bbl (from .bcf) And this is the line in the .tex file: \usepackage[backend=biber]{biblatex} So when I said BibTex, probably that should be BibLaTeX! As for the problem with multiple authors, I haven't came across that. I have many entries of the kind: @techreport{scheduling-of-mixed-criticality-applications, author = {Georgia Giannopoulou and Nikolay Stoimenov and Pengcheng Huang and Lothar Thiele}, title = {Scheduling of Mixed-Criticality Applications on Resource-Sharing Multicore Systems}, institution = {Computer Engineering and Networks Laboratory, ETH Zurich, 8092 Zurich, Switzerland}, year = 2013 } You mean the problem is, that turns out as "et. al." in the PDF? I'm sure that can be configured if you have a problem with it. I don't, and besides no one care for references anyway - just put them there and then forget about them, is what people do. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573