From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: question about recent change Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 14:51:43 -0600 Message-ID: <876182hjxc.fsf@tromey.com> References: <87oalulwpv.fsf@tromey.com> <87a8xehnkj.fsf@tromey.com> <554D104C.209@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431118345 3684 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2015 20:52:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 20:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 08 22:52:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YqpFl-00029G-R0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 22:52:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqpFl-0001xI-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 16:52:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57169) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqpFY-0001xC-2F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 16:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqpFU-0006Yz-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 16:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([67.222.38.55]:54602) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqpFT-0006WB-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 16:51:55 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 2241 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2015 20:51:50 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 May 2015 20:51:50 -0000 Original-Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by CMOut01 with id RYrk1q00U2f2jeq01Yrn4K; Fri, 08 May 2015 14:51:48 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Zox+dbLG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=udL4O0NGDEAA:10 a=zstS-IiYAAAA:8 a=PnD2wP_eR3oA:10 a=zxv4jSZfPCgA:10 a=h1PgugrvaO0A:10 a=vaJtXVxTAAAA:8 a=QTNjb7vPvTegedt-JFoA:9 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tromey.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=bSDUroIN4FJ+t1cbrcjvGehFs96qIKWk9iDc4LAziB4=; b=fdUBLyqSDW7L7sB/9KXU1rSbxX4CRYQBhMEXgjArt7PUqfs3QXV2uxe0Eb8ILOcvbDEW0sXbclIt0vI7NK806q0Q1hrijfsqLoW6C5t+hzigyRB8kE8FI53Ul197+ZfA; Original-Received: from [71.218.201.176] (port=45222 helo=pokyo) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YqpFK-0006Zz-Ed; Fri, 08 May 2015 14:51:46 -0600 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <554D104C.209@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 8 May 2015 22:36:44 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Identified-User: {36111:box522.bluehost.com:elynrobi:tromey.com} {sentby:smtp auth 71.218.201.176 authed with tom+tromey.com} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 67.222.38.55 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186341 Archived-At: >>>>> "Dmitry" == Dmitry Gutov writes: Dmitry> On 05/08/2015 10:33 PM, Tom Tromey wrote: >> I tend to think that any sort of package should be available for >> upgrade. Dmitry> If they are, I won't be able to put into package-directory-list the Dmitry> git checkouts of the packages I develop. You don't have to upgrade. I strongly believe that package.el should first serve the needs of ordinary users. Power users like you can roll their own, or add a special power-user-only feature to package.el, or etc. Tom