From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How the backquote and the comma really work?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 20:17:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87615mbo3z.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k2u5azfi.fsf@mbork.pl>
On 2015-07-12, at 22:33, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
> So, what about this? It seems to work. OTOH, I think it's not the most
> elegant thing possible, since there is some code duplication: mci/read
> has this: (:open-paren (mci/read-list-contents)) in a (a)case statement,
> and mci/read-list-contents has this: (:open-paren (setq next
> (mci/read-list-contents))). Something tells my mathematical mind that
> there probably exists a cleaner approach.
Stupid me – again;-). No wonder ‘mci/read-list-contents’ appears twice,
once, once in ‘mci/read’ and once in ‘mci/read-list-contents’ – it seems
there’s no other way (though I can’t prove it formally).
But now my problem is something different, and on a different level –
a “metaproblem” in a sense. I’m still working on ‘mci/eval’; it now
supports ‘progn’ forms and ‘setq’, and I have ‘cons’, ‘car’ and ‘cdr’ as
symbols bound to their Elisp counterparts in the global environment of
my MCI, and when I have lambdas (and write ‘mci/apply’, which should be
relatively easy now), I’ll have more or less complete (though tiny)
Lisp. I guess that adding backquote should be really straightforward
then.
So where’s the problem? Well, it’s quite a lot of fun to put it all
together, and I’m learning a few things along the way, so it’s difficult
to resist the temptation to add more stuff. Macros? ‘cond’ forms?
‘while’ forms? OTOH, my goal is *not* to recreate all Elisp (contrary
to Scheme, Elisp is far from minimalistic, for instance, it has *a lot*
of special forms which could, in principle, be macros - ‘if’, for
example, or ‘let’, or ‘let*’). I definitely do not want to spend too
much time on this – adding lots of special forms would soon cease to be
fun, and once (and if!) I have macros, there’s really no use in adding
them; also, I want to move on to other things.
So now my question is: does it make sense to play around with it more?
Would a more complete Elisp interpreter written in Elisp be useful for
anyone? If yes, I might consider publishing all my code sooner rather
than later. And: if it’s interesting and/or useful for anybody, is
there anything besides lambdas, a proper ‘mci/apply’ function and macros
that definitely *should* be added? (One thing that comes to mind would
be special (= dynamic) variables. I’m not sure whether I would like to
add them – it might be too much work. OTOH, I’d learn to implement
dynamic binding then...)
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-25 17:09 How the backquote and the comma really work? Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-25 17:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-06-25 18:06 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-25 18:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-06-25 18:39 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-25 18:44 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-25 19:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-07-10 11:36 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-12 15:54 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-07-12 19:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-12 20:33 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-14 18:17 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2015-07-14 22:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-21 22:08 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-07-24 13:01 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-08-11 11:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-12 15:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
[not found] ` <mailman.8207.1439393377.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-12 16:30 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-08-23 8:30 ` Marcin Borkowski
[not found] ` <mailman.110.1440318650.11330.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-23 16:46 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-07-21 21:54 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-08-11 10:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-08-11 17:20 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2015-08-12 15:01 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-07-21 21:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-06-25 18:10 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-25 18:40 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-06-25 18:53 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-25 19:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-06-25 20:05 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-25 20:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-25 20:37 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-25 23:55 ` Robert Thorpe
[not found] ` <mailman.5697.1435276533.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-26 1:41 ` Rusi
2015-06-26 14:24 ` Michael Heerdegen
[not found] ` <mailman.5716.1435328741.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-26 14:35 ` Rusi
2015-06-26 14:51 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-06-25 18:46 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-26 7:31 ` tomas
2015-06-26 13:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-26 14:06 ` tomas
2015-06-26 15:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-12 17:38 ` Vaidheeswaran C
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2015-06-30 16:27 ` sokobania.01
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