From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:31:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87614chj65.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <20150816160149.9416.80132@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> <55D15899.2070105@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817121513.GA2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D21191.8070202@cs.ucla.edu> <55D2265B.5030109@yandex.ru> <87io8dw8qu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439901145 13021 80.91.229.3 (18 Aug 2015 12:32:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:32:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 18 14:32:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRg3t-0000VN-5I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:32:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56538 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRg3s-0001kR-Ja for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRg3n-0001gk-TT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRg3j-0005PP-Pc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:32:11 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51669) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRg3j-0005Oq-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:32:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRg3W-0000LG-8S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:31:54 +0200 Original-Received: from 122.red-83-43-64.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.43.64.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:31:54 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 122.red-83-43-64.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:31:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.red-83-43-64.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gMjUMjk+13krDC6qKnBSpfOdjFs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188875 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: [snip] > Seriously, now that we do have Unicode, and good implementations of it > (although Emacs's isn't complete yet, it's certainly usable), there's > really no excuse for _a priori_ restricting the character set used in > a computer language. [snip] My experience says that there are plenty of *reasons* for being extremely cautious about using anything other than ASCII in programs, (including (doc-)strings, to a lesser extrem.) Just see the issues faced on this topic of curved quotes, and it is a single case of Unicode use. I'm all for modernization of Emacs, but this change just doesn't make sense to me.