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From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
To: 22169@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII characters on OS X
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:19:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8760zyl0if.fsf@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABr8ebY7KmucTeRXtHedw77LZ651jfDPw=5w9ONAbAewtDQskg@mail.gmail.com>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> I'm not aware of any published rationale for the decision to
>> store decomposed characters.
>
> It cannot be anything other than the desire to support lax matches.

Maybe. I half suspect it was just to make their case mapping
table (which doesn't include entries for the precomposed
characters) smaller.

>> I think maybe lax matching as an option would be better than
>> blindly doing comparisons based on the decomposed form.
>
> It could be, if we had the lax matching implemented in C.  But we
> currently only emulate that with complex regexps, and I think it's not
> a good idea to call that from dired.c.

Whether that ever gets implemented or not, what I meant to
suggest is that a half-baked lax matching that only works for a
small subset of situations and only on one platform is not a
feature worth having at all. And if people really do want it
they can have it today by setting the encoding to utf-8 and
dealing with the backspacing weirdness.

AFAICT the rationale for renormalizing filenames to NFC was that
combining characters couldn't be *displayed* on Carbon Emacs,
rather than there being anything especially undesirable about
the backspacing behavior.

> I could come up with a patch if someone's interested to try it.  I
> just want to hear first about the details of what happens in
> file_name_completion that causes file-name-all-completions return nil
> in the OP's case.  There's got to be something that I'm missing here.

Like I said, ns-win's utf-8-nfd doesn't normalize on encode.
I've since confirmed this with encode-coding-string.  I haven't
been able to confirm that ucs-normalize's utf-8-hfs exhibits the
problem behavior.






  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-16 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-14 19:08 bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII characters on OS X Anders Lindgren
2015-12-14 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 21:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 22:07     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15  3:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15  5:12         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15  9:31           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-15 10:21             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15 16:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 19:16             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15 19:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 20:05                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-17 22:01                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  2:46                     ` Random832
2015-12-18  6:29                     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  7:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 15:26                         ` Random832
2015-12-18 17:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 17:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 19:16                           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-20 19:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 22:00                               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-21  3:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21  6:52                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-21 16:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21 22:03                                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-22  3:37                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-22  5:42                                           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-22 17:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-22 22:29                                               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-23  3:37                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-23  6:17                                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-23 17:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-24 19:23                                                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-24 19:33                                                         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-24 19:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18  7:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18  8:38                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  9:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 15:42                           ` Random832
2015-12-15 21:53                 ` Random832
2015-12-16  3:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16  5:05                     ` Random832
2015-12-16 10:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16 16:00                         ` Random832
2015-12-16 17:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16 18:19                             ` Random832 [this message]
2015-12-16 18:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 20:49 ` Random832
2015-12-14 22:41 ` bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII ch Anders Lindgren

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