From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Documentation of nnoo.el Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:59:05 +0100 Message-ID: <8760znu6jq.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87615q88kh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2u66nvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pp3w4vfn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450976397 23032 80.91.229.3 (24 Dec 2015 16:59:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 16:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 24 17:59:47 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aC9Ew-0006Ef-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:59:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC9Ew-0001oq-9D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:59:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41476) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC9Ej-0001oY-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:59:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC9Ee-00037z-W1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:59:32 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aC9Ee-00037v-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:59:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aC9EI-0001J8-BC; Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:59:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pp3w4vfn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:56:28 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1aC9EI-0001J8-BC MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451581147.20177@TsrXKj8LRKqBQPEfNd01hg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196769 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Does this mean you'd rather not go all the way with EIEIO? Maybe just > vectors or something? EIEIO would be fine by me... > Well that's the real crux, isn't it :) I'm happy to try banging together > a preliminary example of how it might look. I don't think rewriting the > backends would be as much work as adjusting pretty much everything else > to use the new code. Well, every reference to a server variable in the backends would need to be rewritten as an object access instead, so there would be quite a lot of churn on the backend side, too. I kinda thing there wouldn't be as much on the Gnus side... >>> 1. First, only make backends into classes. This would give us the chance >>> to do away with the select-method/secondary-select-method >>> distinction, and just have a list of defined servers. >> >> I think that's a totally orthogonal issue. We could do that now, but >> it'd break the current naming scheme for the groups in Gnus. > > It is orthogonal, but on the other hand it would take extra effort to > preserve. Do you mean the "nnml+ServerName:GroupName" scheme? I don't > quite see how doing away with the primary/secondary distinction would > affect that... Groups from primary servers aren't prefixed, while groups from non-primary servers are... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no