From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering Unicode characters Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:16:20 +1100 Message-ID: <8760xxcql7.fsf@gmail.com> References: <83twmkkv16.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8nactib.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455067005 12866 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 01:16:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 02:16:40 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTJOZ-0000tZ-1L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 02:16:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTJOY-0002eP-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:16:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38760) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTJOT-0002eC-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:16:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTJOS-0006yS-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:16:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a]:35477) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTJOL-0006uh-Ek; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:16:25 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id ho8so2885033pac.2; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:16:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=UdLUZgeyJpblY9RAJf+b5+v8r0R2qKQq7igycznf2pM=; b=z/UIGj4xs8mqtghvmlG969J67yghfYUmalJPO9rBilrb1F6JXYnsKVyTKWupKROHU2 WAeUmL1IQhwhydsxXs/nf/OBTy/yNrBiMkXSOxDatxpOTVm0H5q+BIJT1H02Bw1nEeiq Tq67pTwoZ0lTp9H/6oxFYqLm1izXKQNBTPJH6LRe7MyybgAy1sbq3uYlz7uVLxH3Xl5+ 5kYvq+03Z0lakwj3pLuJY6RkaQsJst+icQWtwTlvTDns1kuE5kH91FPHPGIKw1jdFkOM eOjEL6cHK/UZCMiFNg+NM1VeUbvPoyO+go8dUP/I6nd0N2c0AHh/WAgFcUV+w+jfkOLY Qcow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=UdLUZgeyJpblY9RAJf+b5+v8r0R2qKQq7igycznf2pM=; b=AriaVdH1ipdCuk9RYxIxhorgNyrEJndtNJVtlBbG4UKkRY2BTR0An5F8NACh3HAuWv zpZCUpIS/0P0lr/ViyK6a9FeyNqLCZA7dOgubwp6BOj+AD4JEGT/foa01f30ukJhrIxR BVoZA5QOTCyitb7kJ3HKt1MKFPVt+JBD7Xl3tZKTerMLBU7iejv2zBNQrpmJl8gerMbK 0YB5KL/jpAlsVbxagtl6PnY2hQWtOZBFgivAnSgasdRtfHrf+m3gDDSlna3LnLXhsatb CFq3IdvOEbGkcYexEAE6s88SZMk4mMSEmAqHg7mudgQNSlaOi96R6UwgrTR1e3Ef1hbJ Sjig== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSejuxroT1zrfBH3l/tLRcsB+sJNun4y8263Dc5p0VhJMbYNP3LeXPgNKfnELy8cw== X-Received: by 10.66.219.164 with SMTP id pp4mr45176064pac.79.1455066984671; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:16:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (114-198-67-137.dyn.iinet.net.au. [114.198.67.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm559890pas.14.2016.02.09.17.16.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:16:23 -0800 (PST) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.3 In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199655 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I suggested that it would be good to come up with short ASCII > visual representations of SOME of these Unicode characters _for > ubb-browse_. > > You seem to be trying to prove we can't do this for ALL the > Unicode characters, but I never said we could do them all. > Doing it for just some characters will be useful. What i was trying to say was that, setting aside the difficulty of create an ASCII representation for /all/ Unicode codepoints, i could foresee a lot of energy being sunk into debates over the 'best' representation for even /some/ of the codepoints. You wrote: > Just pick one. Since the representation will be used only in > this one feature, the choice is not crucial. i tend to agree, but my experience with these sort of situations suggests that there will be a number of people feeling that the colour of the bikeshed /is/ a crucial matter. :-) But i guess we'll see what happens! Alexis.