From: Live System User <nyc4bos@aol.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>, John Wiegley <johnw@gnu.org>,
15905@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15905: 24.3; url-copy-file sometimes silently downloads garbage or incomplete file
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:45:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8760xgoa71.fsf@aol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3y4bl30xh.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:59:38 +0100")
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Lars, what is the argument for rejecting external TLS programs, for and
>> against?
>
> I don't know what the pro argument is.
One of the pro arguments, of course, is choice.
>
> The argument against is that using external programs doesn't go through
> the Emacs network security manager, and TLS validation either has to be
> switched off ("--insecure") or switched on for all connections. Which
> is, of course, unacceptable.
You can use certificates with the -CApath argument to OpenSSL just like
GnuTLS uses trustfiles -- it doesn't have to be all or nothing.
I'm not suggesting that the ("--insecure") switch be the default but why
actively prevent users from using OpenSSL or any other external SSL/TLS
program if they choose to do so and go through the trouble of setting
it up for themselves?
No one is against having internal GnuTLS and NSM facilities as a
convenience and a security feature enabled and setup for users as
the default environment.
But please reconsider removing choice for users.
Thanks.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-22 18:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-15 16:13 bug#15905: 24.3; url-copy-file sometimes silently downloads garbage or incomplete file Ryan
2013-11-16 23:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-17 4:53 ` Ryan
2013-11-18 19:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-18 19:52 ` Ryan C. Thompson
2013-11-18 20:30 ` Ryan
2013-11-21 16:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-03-23 23:57 ` Noam Postavsky
2015-12-25 20:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-25 20:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-25 20:47 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-25 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-25 20:55 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-25 20:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-25 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-25 20:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-19 15:06 ` Live System User
2016-01-19 16:36 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-19 17:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 18:45 ` Live System User [this message]
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