From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:01:39 +0100 Message-ID: <8760wj3eks.fsf@gmx.de> References: <871t7d4ion.fsf@gmx.de> <87oaagi128.fsf@gmx.de> <877fh0hovs.fsf@gmx.de> <756f60a7-bdf9-a806-b9d6-dbf17f0ebaab@yandex.ru> <87y49gg9sm.fsf@gmx.de> <845ef936-dec1-eac9-db2a-f2bb25f3a830@yandex.ru> <87egb8faxv.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458321668 3061 80.91.229.3 (18 Mar 2016 17:21:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23006@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 18:20:58 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1agy4z-0006Yw-Eq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2016 17:01:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agxma-00061s-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:51062) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agxmY-00061f-7D for 23006@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:01:50 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.50.242]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LrJTs-1ZeFAX2ix2-013AMB; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:01:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:13:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GtoigmnNY1fYQ1T70fVjoXgEL1u7VJAKH5YvPwXyBwX03V0WrQ+ Bb0UueafgDLW9fmUeicznCVAMEyy9qy1u1ph9UOrbAgKCOTmE9VGsnPbYg53A8hZmIVL7aq Of2vZOSnBE3YO5HBZQRL+h7pwkusupkdGIAbSlUvfceCs8GUs9sd7X+5ZKUW4IgXzOzG8op Y0xHkZ29JGASvsNqyl+GA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:dwIosguP4/s=:wLWIZZfLq2xTGny8PxtN2/ 8ljeEEwaMbVBj9j4Qa+gekgbZxpB22MYZAgYqdtslUDn9pq9KG+cvdJp1pR8mT8+S+vhjAbVA 23PPbp34PzDZgyUIe/UQ7jmeQcy2dSyjl0cmTtz8FQC1OBJRq45ZxT1OQ6OAR7W9+pKb81PWK nk+6IpCMf9eYDd6Bzz56NS2/6WIDCQFTkCJP9ON2ULS9RAbsGhZqBKFUeruU+vXXYExMaJnUI yZhLNcovQZPjKiLmhJnZ4OiQ5rQa7Ocvu3hTqfPlJhZ8EEqslXywYPtCfRc6atQQwTyFOiHOg 7Md1BhoR7OcjCQ/8U3FP0YOMt2BsuOgqGOwYDML/COaAvlQ/wisRT9wxUSQNm0kVCxGvzk3O5 1OJObm7eEELbbtg6rnPE4h3RfAvnQOGZmRjuQ9ZXap7GPQj+kid4EGMCV+DRrWdvPHB1zivoQ 6bfFFBz8htnnXRHrG4IisRj9rQa9Yu/DaJCODMgLYkcFIvyHcTjKygyoY32sqZOR41RJcs3wz 2wugnIdSbl/NJLbkr89EhLn2oXOHe3tUgO0E/Gc6d3kcrJpM8rlfZhAyiwWF1RYVJUfuSAW4x +FfEPyBN9JSwOgfEYxp51d3kGJ6Z9bMdFsb8zlCRThTBWAPvhV5MMUM9gBPa0/eNbACOiMMRj 95QL0PIP6rv31fcLIskydLpwAJGnU/ektoCd6d4TGs68ZnU/zFEp4JUMiwXJp2uaJIiCrmHIw DakPiab3axbbL+mQ/mfhh2G8LBYboUA9FG3Nvuz/pq5iYQJr7WwE2Vr0VVsnrmsKIfKH1QhG X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115047 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: Hi Stefan, > A big part of the problem here is our support for the > "/:" syntax. I wonder if we could demote this syntax. One option > is of course to drop it altogether (I'm biased: I never use it). > But maybe another is to only support it in substitute-in-file-name, > where it'd get expanded to its more verbose equivalent. I fully agree with you, I haven't been ever in favor of the "/mehod:host:" syntax, and its abbreviation "/host:". Unfortunately, this was decided before I've entered Tramp maintenance (2002 or so). However, before we start with such radical changes, why do you oppose to use non-essential in pcomplete? According to my tests, this solves the problem. I know that you've planned to use non-essential for several use cases. But according to the status quo in the sources, until now it is used only for indication of file name completion being in progress. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.