From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Frame visibility Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:35:55 +0100 Message-ID: <8760my1m0k.fsf@web.de> References: <87inr6lax7.fsf@fastmail.fm> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480948616 29946 195.159.176.226 (5 Dec 2016 14:36:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 05 15:36:52 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cDuNu-0007Oz-Vo for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:36:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40824 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDuNy-00030Y-KV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:36:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48169) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDuNF-0002ze-QD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:36:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDuNA-00032b-An for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:63426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDuNA-00031l-1U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:36:04 -0500 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.186.2.127]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mef0K-1c2oXW07kO-00OHJT; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:35:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87inr6lax7.fsf@fastmail.fm> (Joost Kremers's message of "Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:37:08 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:wZNKJ9ZV3EImagFV7GDBTZHgVjXPRp91Ajln/QSJ5yDKkQ+I2Qk hGrF8g6qI4rwU26MNcrFo9Xx5nn3hsViHVxmhzY9a4lvBK0p6JKUJQtTtVzbQT8Ffhmnvr/ +LV2f1qfjt/tSfQ1aWsEKruTZQn/mTXlvWIhfBHCc/2RvrESSOBdcPH0UuKxMSQp/oQZ7pK L2l4KFgDHSnT+5eYFHL7g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:koVBytRy5+8=:icMy9CuwLyf8FLM6pGAL8Y xnAciGZ07EMSZZ2JWQPrRyaYwjnKAHt3gs1ggi06QG7a9IeOxjqTDyG05Bwn4wXqwrBncZk0i fMy1LgcGiOX6U7Dy2efqE+iijtE6uGyEPzH61yyW/ddnk/oTVrtBPYDHZRekk4afBN4HJSSUh mXjzJ71OEdgDRBFVhDRxT1FBtmH3ELY+LeQso8HdT3DZXKVuThsIY4ZTDEk/SSw1nRXdwgfte Ukh790mr/gznjK4Z+sGHOkj38ssxe1e+cA+rn62ePNV1Ai5UBbG/R07dDhzW+KM7dcKSaqraK Od0uLvSlvVfHemBo7opRAYydS6CLMuRQmHimbKVNk/k0sdNWUG/yuKaSREQnajVA1y7nKpcHR L0ARqdJDF8UA/+C9KQkTt2Ml2972Hgss3kvnU485mJEarAtZt4JyLA+RhN5OyOm68euTDZFre bIBCEOfVHcwT6Q351jVpuJcMau0wvopdKgEXz4wECyS1Ovh1c0sFsY9zNGivAseK4BXmaTXnb IrIewH8ldtGYKfwHuwHDC0TkydAIRp2tm/KF2/Pp37zSnl6f/i0kj746mi8/VfgKW6OD03dQ6 W7tBPobCLPVxIjMt8KA67ucKZ/r5/YB1WOJgWcyIH0KsZR5P7BOm6pidi2cNrLPxQK1k6gy7u GuG1lf72Ihcs3XldFDnjNk0kMP+Mx3lC9zNfSNWKE+caAP0IGhJQwOxy6sauv6tdseN33iEc6 hUmTmFzkoHIFRTrOKu7exeqdRq3327UBLsHgygVDoG4X+U676jL9245Kw0o5LW+F/lXL3wAg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:111871 Archived-At: Joost Kremers writes: > The Elisp manual says that a frame can be visible, invisible or > iconified. Visible and iconified (a.k.a. minimized) are clear, but > when exactly is a frame invisible? AFAIU the manual, an invisible frame is just not displayed (...visible), so it's like "iconified" but without an icon, I guess. With other words: something like minimizing implemented in Emacs. > And what happens if I use `select-window' on a window that is > displayed in an invisible window? Why don't you just try it out (without any guarantee from my side, if your whole computer gets invisible, I won't pay for it). Michael.