From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Something weird with when-let*/if-let* Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:03:16 +0200 Message-ID: <8760bh1oqj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877evy2am9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87shel27rc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87efq51r12.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508011543 12187 195.159.176.226 (14 Oct 2017 20:05:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 20:05:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 14 22:05:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e3Sgk-0002MZ-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:05:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3Sgq-00078q-D9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:05:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3SgE-00078l-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:05:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3SgB-00081d-Md for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=59368 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e3SgB-0007zq-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e3Sft-0004HH-WB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:04:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:bpWHLWWeRnPxmznzpPkAJbJ/Y6g= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219529 Archived-At: Noam Postavsky writes: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Eric Abrahamsen > wrote: > >> This sounds pretty likely. What actually determines the order of >> compilation, btw? I can see how the chain of requires spreads out, but I >> don't know where it starts. > > I believe the order of compilation is determined only by 'make'; the > requires only tell the compiler to load the elc or el file, not > compile it (and note that a require inside an (eval-when-compile ...) > form will not appear in the elc file). Thanks, that's really useful information. So even doing (require 'message) in nnimap.el wouldn't allow us to benefit from the eval-when-compile load of subr-x in message.el. Besides message.el, nnimap.el is the only gnus lib to use when-let*. I can just add another subr-x require in nnimap for now -- if it starts getting used in more places, I guess we can require subr-x unconditionally in gnus.el. Thanks, Eric