From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joshua Branson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current State of CEDET in Emacs tree and standalone Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <876019apdi.fsf@fastmail.com> References: <87601b9t8f.fsf@fastmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532100518 2356 195.159.176.226 (20 Jul 2018 15:28:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:28:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 20 17:28:34 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgXKb-0000Ua-Kr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:28:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48622 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgXMi-0004oG-Ka for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55396) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgXMb-0004nz-Je for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgXMY-0003cd-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:47719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgXMY-0003bM-91 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:34 -0400 Original-Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B0E21D16 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; bh=zxYEm35sVX+tB0jyIOQkZNRDOXqkC8vUQOmZDwF15cc=; b=eqiqoAuj vUsF4rjccxZ8mhQXO8UTax+bDm+sQ22jtz5I6VbR2yi7BosjIZRo7ZXW+PHhs9/j aeQzECAJkhhjHLnQReaOk12G1WR97oNjwSrfwLUY/ZI+PemX/rtihBN6xZ+POgkr 0sLXOCbFO/14lQgy+UGDvgX7Kuj3d/+1iTGP1iCD/h/7YK3SgK4K8HuLOn+JQt/u Z+95qA34WQ3NTWsyvU5ciMSR3qmpPIb7HD7pcPJ+IgEAChu9QqAScz2W0+fHItFO 25H7bY8C3KyDTNoLXhRLMEAP3KfGBxRtYm9YOR1vyFFbI0M5ohhSLDWOMrz0DzPW SIe7Udj8n0vMzw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=zxYEm35sVX+tB0jyIOQkZNRDOXqkC 8vUQOmZDwF15cc=; b=frIb7lufmZLjGsdziQxKk/uN2K6oBW1tQD0VCPmG+LeAQ KoOqnPXO6zq3hB7ATgborLaFgWq3cZlMowX81wsSv0UWCKWwTmVX37kg7ndJ+dly MQas9+qqhDbnFNIpNobvzeDtxP487wFoCMTwHFfiEyeE1q8C+D9Fwe6Ht6LRjD5C zFMKVck6BZohOSX79dTs8OV3PZfSKgTz5terdq1UCt3IkmLw7iJRDlFLOTeKyuWC KJZmV4x5g7T7NJjfkwdcjqLuSfUV0oW4IAkOXDlAWYBWsiYw1GprEABOBGGsHI3/ KeHnUrADdSoiUk/NPHZkrEEyZxGzISnrhKmOS25PQ== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from dobby (unknown [72.12.220.132]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7998D10282 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:30:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Andreas Marschke's message of "Thu, 19 Jul 2018 22:58:39 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227586 Archived-At: Andreas Marschke writes: > I haven't looked into LSP in detail and probably should, but so far I think what I want to do with > it should be possible with portions of CEDET/semantic. > > Even if CEDET does not warrant continuation, how would you define obsoletion? I actually don't know. I'll have to think about that one. > > I'm working mostly with Java applications mobile native and server side as well as small and > midsized nodejs projects. If LSP can work for these environments I'd be happy to have a look. > > Thanks, > > Andreas Marschke. > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 16:41, Joshua Branson wrote: > > Andreas Marschke writes: > > > Hi all! > > > > In a quest to add some improvements to CEDET/Semantic I came across the fact of the splintered codebases people are potentially working on. > > > > We have the CEDET project on SourceForge with changes going beyond the initial import into emacs. > > And then there is the version shipped with Emacs. > > > > When comparing the code basis one of the most immediate things that struck me, was the availability of tests and that there was even rudimentary unit testing employed, This is not > the case > > for the code in Emacs tree. > > > > Are there efforts to import the code from Sourceforge anew into the emacs tree or is it intended to remain there as it pertains to features not intended to be shipped with Emacs? > > > > Not to be a debbie downer, but is CEDIT worthwhile to continue? > (admittedly I really don't know much about CEDIT). I'm under the > impression that semantic may not be needed, since microsoft is pushing > the LSP (language server protocal). > > Just curious, > > Joshua