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From: Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New lisp library -- cell.el
Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:51:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zfqejtm.wl-all_but_last@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmu92viik.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>


> Why not use nil for "none"?  That would simplify your code and most
> likely would make for much more natural/idiomatic code in the clients of
> your library.
> [ Traditionally in Lisp when you need something like a "option` (aka
>   `Maybe`) type, you use `(cons X nil)` for `some X` and `nil` for `none`.  ]

I tend to keep None variant a singleton of cell-option. nil is over-overloaded
in Lisp programming. For example, if we want to store a nullable value in the
slot of cl-struct and we use nil as none. It's hard to differentiate "Slot is
unintialized" and "Slot is initialized with None".

> Why bother with those indirections?

Docstring generated by `cl-defstruct` may not suitable for us. An alias to make
a meaningful doc.

Or should we use (put 'cell-box-inner 'function-documentation ".....")?

> That makes every call to `cell-weak-get` allocate a new symbol only to
> throw it away.  I'd recommend you define a top-level constant

Or use '(nil)? map.el use this. But IMO your solution (return nil for GCed weak ref) is better.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-28  6:21 New lisp library -- cell.el Zhu Zihao
2020-02-28  8:51 ` Zhu Zihao
2020-02-28 15:43 ` New " Stefan Monnier
2020-02-28 16:51   ` Zhu Zihao [this message]
2020-02-29  3:30     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-29  6:48       ` Zhu Zihao
2020-02-29 14:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-01  7:43           ` Zhu Zihao
2020-03-05 15:52             ` Stefan Monnier

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