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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
@ 2020-03-20 17:11 Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-20 17:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-03-20 19:40 ` James Cloos
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-03-20 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 40151

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It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as
part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there
means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) when a message is
first saved or delayed, not when it is sent. In the case of delayed
messages, in particular, it's weird that the eventually-sent message can
have a Date header days or weeks in the past.

Is there any interest in changing the default value?

Eric


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diff --git a/lisp/gnus/message.el b/lisp/gnus/message.el
index f1ace0eeb2..eb9c79d66c 100644
--- a/lisp/gnus/message.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/message.el
@@ -215,9 +215,9 @@ message-required-headers
   :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers")
   :type '(repeat sexp))
 
-(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From Date)
+(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From)
   "Headers to be generated when saving a draft message."
-  :version "22.1"
+  :version "28.1"
   :group 'message-news
   :group 'message-headers
   :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers")

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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:11 bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-03-20 17:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-03-20 17:31   ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-20 19:40 ` James Cloos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-03-20 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: 40151

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as
> part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there
> means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) when a message is
> first saved or delayed, not when it is sent. In the case of delayed
> messages, in particular, it's weird that the eventually-sent message can
> have a Date header days or weeks in the past.
>
> Is there any interest in changing the default value?

Sure; makes sense to me.

Perhaps it should be documented in the "postpone" command(s), too.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-03-20 17:31   ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-20 17:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-03-20 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 40151

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> It was noted on gnus.general that it's weird to have the Date header as
>> part of the default value of `message-draft-headers'. Having it in there
>> means that a Date header is generated (and fixed) when a message is
>> first saved or delayed, not when it is sent. In the case of delayed
>> messages, in particular, it's weird that the eventually-sent message can
>> have a Date header days or weeks in the past.
>>
>> Is there any interest in changing the default value?
>
> Sure; makes sense to me.
>
> Perhaps it should be documented in the "postpone" command(s), too.

You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything
apropos of "postpone".





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:31   ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-03-20 17:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-03-20 17:55       ` Eric Abrahamsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-03-20 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: 40151

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything
> apropos of "postpone".

No, but it should perhaps say something.  Or at least point to
message-draft-headers...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-03-20 17:55       ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-20 18:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-03-23  8:09         ` Peter Münster
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-03-20 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 40151

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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> You mean in the `gnus-delay-article' docstring? I didn't see anything
>> apropos of "postpone".
>
> No, but it should perhaps say something.  Or at least point to
> message-draft-headers...

How's this look?


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From 951338269aa6b866b06ab59a2f10cb09f41f390a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:53:49 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers

* lisp/gnus/message.el (message-draft-headers): The Date header should
reflect when the message is sent, not when it was saved or delayed.
---
 lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el | 6 +++++-
 lisp/gnus/message.el    | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el
index 8dae4ef5c1..589ec6f807 100644
--- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-delay.el
@@ -75,7 +75,11 @@ gnus-delay-article
   variable `gnus-delay-default-hour', minute and second are zero.
 
 * hh:mm for a specific time.  Use 24h format.  If it is later than this
-  time, then the deadline is tomorrow, else today."
+  time, then the deadline is tomorrow, else today.
+
+The value of `message-draft-headers' determines which headers are
+generate when the article is delayed.  Remaining headers are
+generate when the article is sent."
   (interactive
    (list (read-string
 	  "Target date (YYYY-MM-DD), time (hh:mm), or length of delay (units in [mhdwMY]): "
diff --git a/lisp/gnus/message.el b/lisp/gnus/message.el
index f1ace0eeb2..eb9c79d66c 100644
--- a/lisp/gnus/message.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/message.el
@@ -215,9 +215,9 @@ message-required-headers
   :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers")
   :type '(repeat sexp))
 
-(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From Date)
+(defcustom message-draft-headers '(References From)
   "Headers to be generated when saving a draft message."
-  :version "22.1"
+  :version "28.1"
   :group 'message-news
   :group 'message-headers
   :link '(custom-manual "(message)Message Headers")
-- 
2.25.2


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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:55       ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-03-20 18:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-03-20 18:41           ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-23  8:09         ` Peter Münster
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-03-20 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: 40151

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> How's this look?

[...]

> +The value of `message-draft-headers' determines which headers are
> +generate when the article is delayed.  Remaining headers are
           ^d

> +generate when the article is sent."
           ^d

Otherwise -- looks good to me.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 18:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-03-20 18:41           ` Eric Abrahamsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-03-20 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 40151-done

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> How's this look?
>
> [...]
>
>> +The value of `message-draft-headers' determines which headers are
>> +generate when the article is delayed.  Remaining headers are
>            ^d
>
>> +generate when the article is sent."
>            ^d

A weird typo to make twice...

> Otherwise -- looks good to me.

Done, thanks.





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:11 bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-20 17:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-03-20 19:40 ` James Cloos
  2020-03-20 20:57   ` Eric Abrahamsen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2020-03-20 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: 40151

there should be an easy way to avoid this change.  on a per message basis.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 19:40 ` James Cloos
@ 2020-03-20 20:57   ` Eric Abrahamsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-03-20 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Cloos; +Cc: 40151

James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:

> there should be an easy way to avoid this change.  on a per message basis.

Providing some per-message mechanism is beyond the scope of this change,
and I think would have to be tackled separately, but if you think this
change is bad and should be reverted, I'd be happy to hear why, and
discuss it. I probably should have left the report up for a while before
pushing it.





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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-20 17:55       ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2020-03-20 18:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-03-23  8:09         ` Peter Münster
  2020-03-23  8:35           ` Robert Pluim
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Peter Münster @ 2020-03-23  8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: 40151, Lars Ingebrigtsen

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On Fri, Mar 20 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:

> -  :version "22.1"
> +  :version "28.1"

Why waiting for 28.1?
27.1 is not yet released.

-- 
           Peter

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* bug#40151: 28.0.50; Remove Date header from message-draft-headers
  2020-03-23  8:09         ` Peter Münster
@ 2020-03-23  8:35           ` Robert Pluim
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2020-03-23  8:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Münster; +Cc: Eric Abrahamsen, 40151, Lars Ingebrigtsen

>>>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:09:00 +0100, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> said:

    Peter> On Fri, Mar 20 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
    >> -  :version "22.1"
    >> +  :version "28.1"

    Peter> Why waiting for 28.1?
    Peter> 27.1 is not yet released.

27.1 is in pre-release, which means no new features, bugfixes and doc
fixes only. I realise itʼs a small change, but who here hasn't
released software with 'just one last change' and gotten burnt?

Robert





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